It says “oil and fluids”, so I suppose this particular statement refers to brake fluid.“Reduced brake performance? “ lol
It says “oil and fluids”, so I suppose this particular statement refers to brake fluid.“Reduced brake performance? “ lol
Yeah but that would screw up their inventory system and I suppose it's fraud as opposed to putting in the wrong oil.They should make everybody happy and lie on the invoice. Put 5w20 in writing and dump 5w30 in it.
At least the service writer avoids an upset owner and doesn't have to make up excuses. This craps goes on every minute of the day.
It's all fraud. They should be doing the right thing in the first place.Yeah but that would screw up their inventory system and I suppose it's fraud as opposed to putting in the wrong oil.
Bought a 2019 Warngler JLU and former owner had "Free Oil Change" done before I got the Jeep. I dropped the plug and drained out the dealer "Free" oil with a little over 200 miles which BTW was not 0w-20 but conventional 5w-20 per the WO. That oil was pitch black! I kept it in the bottle from the New M1 EP after draining. My thoughts are the dealer did not change the oil maybe just the filter? When I called them they lay blame on the tech of course. Crazy that service writers are just ghosts when things like this are called out. With a $50,000 vehicle it is unacceptable practice for any dealer to violate the trust of the consumer who supports their whole business and the factory brand.I took my f150 3.3 and had its second oil change factory spec is 5w20. My invoice papers today said they put 5W30 Motorcraft synthetic blend in it. I questioned it and the service guy said don’t pay attention to my owners manual. Said Ford changed spec for that engine to 5w30. I’ve looked on the web and find nothing on it. I don't think 5w30 is going to hurt my engine. Actually probably better. But just wanted facts. It’s free oil changes through the dealership I got it from. 2019 xlt 3.3 Got 5899 miles on it. I drive mostly short runs. I live two miles from work. I use my OLM and it’s basically running low at 3000 miles. Love my truck . While the weakest of all the engines , it’s plenty of power for my old ass. Gets 24 mpg on interstate. It has the 6 speed also.
Makes senseThin oil burns off hot rotors quicker than thicker oil.
It kind of goes both ways, my new Tiguan lists 508 00 oil in the owner's manual but I requested the dealer use 504 00 oil for the first free oil change. They did as I requested without a comment or question.When I bought my 2018 Titan , they told me my first oil change was free . Ok , so when the time came I went back to get my freebie . As I was getting my keys and paperwork I asked if they used the 0-20 synthetic . No , we used 10-30 conventional . Oh , hell no . The manual specifies 0-20 synthetic . NO other options . After we stared at each other for a while they took the truck back and changed it again . And this time I watched through the big window .
Yeah, but I think it's one thing to put the wrong oil inIt's all fraud. They should be doing the right thing in the first place.
I had a Ford Taurus that speced 5w20 which is what I used for over 200k. Every once in a while 5w30 when it was on sale or free (Remember Valvoline Nextgen?) Never had a problem with the 5w20. The oil pan did leak though but you had to remove the exhaust in order to change the gasket so I didn't bother. It leaked less with 5w30 than with 5w20.Most likely just an internal memo they get from Ford, I'm sure they are recommending the 5w20 for CAFE reasons to sneak in under the limit but then changing the viscosity later after the sale for better service life of the vehicle. I'm sure to abide by their rules they have to factory fill them with 5w20 and also print it in the owners manual as the recommended oil to be used. I guess what they're doing is not technically illegal but definitely treading in a grey area so to speak. I don't know what the rules entail but cannot imagine that they would be too happy with Ford or any other manufacturers that are doing this even though it's now after the sale and are technically used vehicles.