Oil Bypass Filter for amsoil mount

[jdw1222]

are there any other bypass filters I can use in place of the amsoil EABP-100? I have the complete amsoil kit but was wondering if anyone can provide an alternative filter to use that is a little cheaper. I have heard that donaldson makes one but don't know which part # to use. would a baldwin b164 work? Thanks!!

 

[lazaro]

if you use the Amsoil bypass filter it will last 50,000 miles.
the EABP100 retails for $38.35. For 50,000 miles of use that is a bargain, Donaldson manufactures the media for Amsoil BP filter

 

[jdw1222]

it says 60,000 miles of you use amsoil synthetic oil. I am not running amsoil oil. I have a 2005 f-250 6.0 diesel. according to amsoils site it says every other oil change, which would be 12,000-15,000 miles. The amsoil filter is a little pricey IMO.

 

[AzFireGuy79]

Only getting 12-15K out of a bypass hurts!

What oil are you running?

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: jdw1222
it says 60,000 miles of you use amsoil synthetic oil. I am not running amsoil oil. I have a 2005 f-250 6.0 diesel. according to amsoils site it says every other oil change, which would be 12,000-15,000 miles. The amsoil filter is a little pricey IMO.

do a little more research, I have personally run 6.0 diesels to a minimum of 22,000 miles no oil change and no bypass filters.
Oil was still in usable condition when drained and that was the synthetic blend Amsoil PCO.
If you use a Used Oil Analysis this will help you safely run the oil it's full interval with out guessing the condition of your machine.
If you look closely on Amsoil site it also says
Quote:
SERVICE LIFE
AMSOIL Synthetic Blend 15w40 Heavy Duty Motor Oil is recommended for use according to the longest service interval established by the engine, vehicle or equipment manufacturer. Drain intervals may be extended based on oil analysis.

AMSOIL Ea™ full flow and Donaldson Endurance™ oil filters are designed for extended drain intervals. They capture more wear-causing particles, have less restriction and last longer than regular filters. For best performance, use AMSOIL Ea full-flow or Donaldson Endurance oil filters.

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: jdw1222
it says 60,000 miles of you use amsoil synthetic oil. I am not running amsoil oil. I have a 2005 f-250 6.0 diesel. according to amsoils site it says every other oil change, which would be 12,000-15,000 miles. The amsoil filter is a little pricey IMO.

If your not using Amsoil oil then it becomes necessary to use a Used Oil Analysis program to take the oil you use to it's maximum interval, you may be suprised how long it will last compared to popular belief and opinions.
The use of high quality oil filters will extend the life of most oils conventional and synthetic

 

[jdw1222]

running rotella synthetic 5w-40 right now. do you think i can go longer on the bypass filter? Still would like to find a cheaper filter i can buy locally. also, i have seen results from several 6.0 used oil analysis and the shearing is always the problem requiring an oil change, not contaminated oil

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: jdw1222
running rotella synthetic 5w-40 right now. do you think i can go longer on the bypass filter? Still would like to find a cheaper filter i can buy locally. also, i have seen results from several 6.0 used oil analysis and the shearing is always the problem requiring an oil change, not contaminated oil

Yes you can extend your intervals way past the manufactures recommended intervals, but only with the use of a used oil analysis, and the ability to read it properly, I say this cause most all the Oil Analysis interpretstion guides are based on mineral oil with 5000 mile intervals. when you use Synthetics and you have a sample with 25,000 miles and the iron PPM is at 92 most labs will flag the iron and recommend a change.
Not necessary with Synthetic oil, if you divide 92 by 5 you will get 18.4, that will bet your Iron sample every 5000 miles using Synthetic oil well within the Normal Iron level for Diesel engines, wich is 10/40 ppm every 5000 miles

Here is a sample with 22,000 miles on a 6.0 using Amsoil Synthetic blend 15w40 PCO with no bypass filter
Quote:
Aluminum 1
Chromium 4
Iron 92
Copper 21
Lead 26
Tin 3
Moly 10
Potassium 0
Boron 2
Silicon 41
Sodium 0
Calcium 3413
Magnesium 20
Phosphorus 1168
Zinc 1319
cST Viscosity @100 11.76
Fuel TBN 2.18
OXD 23.0
NITR 40.0
F-soot 0.32

 

[wcbcruzer]

Originally Posted By: jdw1222
it says 60,000 miles of you use amsoil synthetic oil. I am not running amsoil oil. I have a 2005 f-250 6.0 diesel. according to amsoils site it says every other oil change, which would be 12,000-15,000 miles. The amsoil filter is a little pricey IMO.


Um, I'm pretty sure you can use it much longer than 15k miles. Just touch the return wire, if it still heats up then the bypass filter is still working.

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: wcbcruzer
Originally Posted By: jdw1222
it says 60,000 miles of you use amsoil synthetic oil. I am not running amsoil oil. I have a 2005 f-250 6.0 diesel. according to amsoils site it says every other oil change, which would be 12,000-15,000 miles. The amsoil filter is a little pricey IMO.


Um, I'm pretty sure you can use it much longer than 15k miles. Just touch the return wire, if it still heats up then the bypass filter is still working.


you can also use the F-soot readings to determine how well the btpass is working

 

[jdw1222]

where is the best and cheapet place to get a used oil analysis done? Thanks,

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: jdw1222
where is the best and cheapet place to get a used oil analysis done? Thanks,

I use http://www.oaitesting.com/ about $20 for a sample kit
Pablo can help you get a kit if you ask him...
they are many others to pick from.
many like Blackstone and their famous comments, I like it straight and to the point the way OAI treats me...

 

[jdw1222]

i will look into getting a used oil analysis done

Back to original question, anyone have a part # for a donaldson or baldwin filter that would replace the amsoil EABP-100

 

[Gary Allan]

No such animal exists, AFAIK. The Amsoil bypass (except for the EaBp120) uses the Cummins full flow thread (1-16). There is no other bypass filter that I know of that uses it. Donaldson does not make a 1-16 bypass filter.

Here's everything that Donaldson makes in 1-16 thread lube filters.

Item Number Item Description Attribute Description Attribute Value


ELF7345

ELF7345 LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-16
C - Length (Inches) 5.35
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application CUMMINS 4B 3.9 SERIES LUBE
Application Note Donaldson Endurance version
Application Note 2 of P558616


ELF7349

ELF7349 LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-16
C - Length (Inches) 6.85
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application CUMMINS 4B & 6B SERIES LUBE
Application Note Donaldson Endurance version
Application Note 2 of P558615


P550152

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 4.28
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-16
C - Length (Inches) 5.78
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.83
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.45
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application FIAT ALLIS, A.CHALMERS
Primary Application 2 4023548-3


P551265

LUBE SPIN ON

A - OD (Inches) 3.67
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-16
C - Length (Inches) 6.87
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.83
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.46
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application DAEWOO 65055105009


P552474

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 4.282
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-16
C - Length (Inches) 7.332
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.834
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.462
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application Allis Chalmers 4037047


P558615

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-16
C - Length (Inches) 6.85
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application CUMMINS 3932217, 3908615
Substitution Donaldson Endurance version
Substitution 2 is ELF7349


P558616

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1 - 16
C - Length (Inches) 5.35
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FILL FLOW
Primary Application CUMMINS 3903224, 3908616
Substitution DONALDSON ENDURANCE IS ELF7345

 

[jdw1222]

if I can go as long as 40- 50,000 miles than i don't have a problem paying for the amsoil filter. Are you guy thinking I can go that long?

 

[deeter16317]

You can run the Amsoil filter a lot longer...just verify that the EaBP will plug off and not bypass when it plugs (I was told it wouldn't bypass, someone else was told it would bypass).

I ran one for around 30k before it finally started to plug off...that was with regular Rotella 15w40 (changed the oil and FF filter, but not the bypass).

 

[wcbcruzer]

Yeah, I'd just go with Amsoil. The thing is, I don't know of any other filter than is 2 micron absolute. Can't beat the Amsoil quality either. So if you do find a substitute for the EaBP filters that can last longer, you can bet it's not filtering the oil as well. So what's the point?

 

[AzFireGuy79]

Everyone recommending the Amsoil bypass is on the right path. YOu really can't find a better one out there. You picked a great oil but need to see just how long it will hold up with a used oil analysis using the Amsoil bypass filter. I am running one on my transmission. Im impressed to say the least. Gary has a vast knowledge of bypass systems. At the end of the day, if you do it right it will be money well spent.

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: deeter16317
You can run the Amsoil filter a lot longer...just verify that the EaBP will plug off and not bypass when it plugs (I was told it wouldn't bypass, someone else was told it would bypass).



An EaBP has no bypass. The only way to tell if it's plugged is if it doesn't get warm.

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: wcbcruzer
Yeah, I'd just go with Amsoil. The thing is, I don't know of any other filter than is 2 micron absolute. Can't beat the Amsoil quality either. So if you do find a substitute for the EaBP filters that can last longer, you can bet it's not filtering the oil as well. So what's the point?


There's nothing new under the sun. Even with the advanced medias ..it still comes down to longevity, fine level of filtration, and size.

Amsoil EaBP filters are about the best game in town for spin-on bypass filters. If you want to go with cotton wound or PT/TP filters ..you've got options ..but on spin-ons ..not too much.

All the other offerings have their advantages and liabilities. It's hard to trump the filtration triangle.