Hi new member. I have a 2011 Jeep Wrangler with 17000 miles on it. Just had the oil changed at the dealership. This was my 5th oil change at the same dealership that I bought the jeep at and every time they always seem to overfill with oil,I have brought this to there attention but to no avail.So I guess I will be doing my own oil changes from now on. I would like some input to what oil(syn or dino) which brands ond which filters.I only plan on changing oil twice a year. October 1 and April 1 so iguess I would be looking for a good Syn oil.I do not wont to be caught having to do a oil change in the cold of Boston in Dec, Jan, Feb doing 3000 mile oil changes as I have no garage. thanks in advance for any help and suggestion.I normally drive about 8000 to 10000 a year, mostly highway.
Oil and filter for 2011 jeep wrangler
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How much oil are they putting in? It takes 6 quarts.
How far is it overfilled? Won't hurt anything if it's just a little over.
Currently running Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W-20 in our 2011 Wrangler with a Pure One filter.
These are a super easy DIY oil change. Drain plug is easily accessible by crawling under right behind the front wheel, and the oil filter is right on the front of the engine so you can easily change it from the top side. Biggest problem is the front axle is right under the filter, so you'll want to go under and wipe it off when you're done.
How far is it overfilled? Won't hurt anything if it's just a little over.
Currently running Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W-20 in our 2011 Wrangler with a Pure One filter.
These are a super easy DIY oil change. Drain plug is easily accessible by crawling under right behind the front wheel, and the oil filter is right on the front of the engine so you can easily change it from the top side. Biggest problem is the front axle is right under the filter, so you'll want to go under and wipe it off when you're done.
Since you are looking at essentially 5k OCI's and mostly highway, virtually any Full Synthetic of the proper grade is going to do you just fine. The Quaker State Ultimate Durability suggested above would be a great choice for your situation, it's a mighty fine oil at a great price and something much pricier just doesn't make sense for your usage IMO. Pennzoil Platinum is now a real bargain at Wally's that'd be another contender.
I would say that they are over filling by at least 1 half quart. the oil on dip stick is way above the high mark.This does not seem to be just a problem with the jeep people. My Subaru always was over filled at every oil change also. Ibrought it to there attention also but the oil on dip stick would always be way above the high mark. My Hondas oilis always right on the money when brought in for an oil change?
I see this with dealers a lot i would assume they would want to save oil but they always seem to overfill it a little maybe we are missing something...
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
I see this with dealers a lot i would assume they would want to save oil but they always seem to overfill it a little maybe we are missing something...
They're probably figuring the typical driver never checks their oil so they put in a little extra just in case.
FWIW...I always overfill my truck a little bit. Oil capacity is supposed to be 7 quarts, but I've found it takes about 7.5 quarts to get it to the full line so I just dump the extra 1/2 quart in and make it 8 quarts.
I see this with dealers a lot i would assume they would want to save oil but they always seem to overfill it a little maybe we are missing something...
They're probably figuring the typical driver never checks their oil so they put in a little extra just in case.
FWIW...I always overfill my truck a little bit. Oil capacity is supposed to be 7 quarts, but I've found it takes about 7.5 quarts to get it to the full line so I just dump the extra 1/2 quart in and make it 8 quarts.
So back to the main theme. What oil & filter guys. It has a 3.8 v6, calls for 5w-20.
Originally Posted By: Enginejoe
So back to the main theme. What oil & filter guys. It has a 3.8 v6, calls for 5w-20.
Well, both the Quaker State Ultimate Durability that I recommended or the PP that KC Jeep recommended would be excellent choices. Both are good full synthetic oils and are available at a decent price.
For your planned OCI, even a good quality conventional oil like Pennzoil conventional, Valvoline conventional, or Quaker State Green Bottle would be no problem. I believe most Chrysler dealers use Pennzoil conventional, so that's probably what you have in it right now.
What you're really looking for is Chrysler spec MS-6395. Anything with that spec listed will work just fine.
For filters, you can never go wrong with an OEM filter especially while under warranty. There are better filters than the Mopar for the money though. I'm using a Purolator Pure One on ours, which is one of the most popular filters here on BITOG.
So back to the main theme. What oil & filter guys. It has a 3.8 v6, calls for 5w-20.
Well, both the Quaker State Ultimate Durability that I recommended or the PP that KC Jeep recommended would be excellent choices. Both are good full synthetic oils and are available at a decent price.
For your planned OCI, even a good quality conventional oil like Pennzoil conventional, Valvoline conventional, or Quaker State Green Bottle would be no problem. I believe most Chrysler dealers use Pennzoil conventional, so that's probably what you have in it right now.
What you're really looking for is Chrysler spec MS-6395. Anything with that spec listed will work just fine.
For filters, you can never go wrong with an OEM filter especially while under warranty. There are better filters than the Mopar for the money though. I'm using a Purolator Pure One on ours, which is one of the most popular filters here on BITOG.
Originally Posted By: ArtDart
Dealership probably not draining all old oil out.
Too lazy/busy to do the job right. Always, always,
change your own oil & most of all......
I think you've nailed it. Think about it, they aren't making much if anything changing oil, many dealers offer it free, or in my dealer's case $8 if you bought the car from them. Thankfully their shop hasn't seen a dime of my money! If they can't sell you something else they want that car off the lift and fast. If that oil is draining for 5-10 minutes it would be a long time. Then they add the recommended amount of oil, and Bingo the engine is overfilled.
Dealership probably not draining all old oil out.
Too lazy/busy to do the job right. Always, always,
change your own oil & most of all......
I think you've nailed it. Think about it, they aren't making much if anything changing oil, many dealers offer it free, or in my dealer's case $8 if you bought the car from them. Thankfully their shop hasn't seen a dime of my money! If they can't sell you something else they want that car off the lift and fast. If that oil is draining for 5-10 minutes it would be a long time. Then they add the recommended amount of oil, and Bingo the engine is overfilled.
I used to use a motorcraft FL400S on mine for a slightly oversized filter. these are also really picky with filters and the ADBV
Motorcrafts work really well on Chrysler products, especially the "S" series filters. The MC FL-400S isn't really spec'd for my Jeep, I actually think it's for a Liberty, but it does fit mine and I've gotten better cold start ups with it than any other filter.
Our recently purchased KIA had a fresh dealer oil change as well. Yep, it was overfilled a half quart.
Our recently purchased KIA had a fresh dealer oil change as well. Yep, it was overfilled a half quart.
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
As long as the oil filter isn't Fram, you're fine.
Actually, when it comes to this particular engine, the Fram Tough Guards and Motorcraft filters seemed to bee trouble free when it came to dry starts. Mobil 1 filters, which are generally thought of as some of the best made filters, were almost guaranteed to give you a dry start. I even experienced it a couple of times with P1 filters.
As long as the oil filter isn't Fram, you're fine.
Actually, when it comes to this particular engine, the Fram Tough Guards and Motorcraft filters seemed to bee trouble free when it came to dry starts. Mobil 1 filters, which are generally thought of as some of the best made filters, were almost guaranteed to give you a dry start. I even experienced it a couple of times with P1 filters.
This is to funny. The last 3 oil changes at the dealership all took 2 1/2 hours to change oil and rotate tires, and the place was not even that busy. so one would think that they could do it right and pay attention to detail and get it right.
I am sorry. On my last post I ment to say 1 1/2 hours
Originally Posted By: afoulk
I used to use a motorcraft FL400S on mine for a slightly oversized filter. these are also really picky with filters and the ADBV
This is the filter I ran with Mobil 1 5w-20 on my 2010.
I used to use a motorcraft FL400S on mine for a slightly oversized filter. these are also really picky with filters and the ADBV
This is the filter I ran with Mobil 1 5w-20 on my 2010.
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