Does that pencil out to around 50 miles worst case scenario towing a grade?
OFFICIAL: Ford F-150 “Lightning” EV
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The TFL driver's reluctance to use the brake pedal on either the Lightning or hybrid surprised me as it shouldn't make any difference. I can't find an exact reference for the Lightning quickly but the F-150 Hybrid has a special regen-integrated braking system that transparently mixes regen and friction brakes to obtain maximum efficiency. It would not be using friction brakes in the conditions shown in the video, which these guys seem totally unaware of. Did I miss something in the video where they indicated otherwise?
I would be shocked if Ford didn't use this system on the BEV version as well. From this reference regarding the hybrid:
I would be shocked if Ford didn't use this system on the BEV version as well. From this reference regarding the hybrid:
Other than Tesla and the Mini-E many mainstream EVs have such a system that allows the car to be driven normally without re-training pertaining to avoiding touching the brake pedal.
seemed to me there was no point in using either brake pedal enhanced regeneration braking or pushing further into the mechanicals because the trucks lift off regen controlled the decent speed. It regenerated just enough at zero pedal to keep speed from rising.
I think they mentioned as well that they thought the battery on the Hybrid was full. If that was the case, there wouldn't be anywhere to dump the reclaimed current. Not like a train that has a massive bank of resistors to shed the dynamic braking into. Might have been different if they'd run the hybrid battery down beforehand.
Or maybe it won’t have a battery at all one day
From the fast lane truck vid.
126KW
So far this is the highest rate Ive seen one charge at.
For such a big and empty battery this isnt competitive. Id think with eth extra cooling they could beef this up to at least 200-250 for a short while to get some miles under the minutes curve.
15-20 min is a competitive stop time in an EV on a road trip.
This thing should be acing the fill test.
Update - a lil better 170 - still off the leaders a good deal
UPdate - lil better. 170
126KW
So far this is the highest rate Ive seen one charge at.
For such a big and empty battery this isnt competitive. Id think with eth extra cooling they could beef this up to at least 200-250 for a short while to get some miles under the minutes curve.
15-20 min is a competitive stop time in an EV on a road trip.
This thing should be acing the fill test.
Update - a lil better 170 - still off the leaders a good deal
UPdate - lil better. 170
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Assuming it can maintain 170KW charge rate between 20 and 80%, providing 81KWh in 30 mins, and 160 miles highway range at 69MPH.
From the snippets I am gathering from various charging sessions it does not appear that it will.
Interestingly I saw my first one on the road about a week ago in Belle Fouche SD the after noon after seeing truck with at least 2 on it get off of 90 in Spearfish in the morning.
I would not think this would be the ideal location for one, but have also seen a Rivian amongst the 3/4, 1 ton and flatbed masses...
I would not think this would be the ideal location for one, but have also seen a Rivian amongst the 3/4, 1 ton and flatbed masses...
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Negative, just the first I've seen in the flesh... at least up close. The one I saw on the road was silver, so they must have gotten 2.
It had a "not for sale" sticker on the window so I guess it is a demo of some sort.
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Also - Not as big of a fan of Antimatter blue as I thought. ...
Tow No! The Ford F-150 Lightning Struggled in Our Towing Test
We towed 3100-, 5300-, and 7200-pound travel trailers with Ford’s electric truck and didn’t get very far from home.
The Tv watchers fall for what their Tv tells them to fall for. The vehicle is a tool it replaces the Horse for transportation. A Thoroughbred won't work well when a draft horse is needed to do the job,,, A 1 inch wrench will not work well where a half inch wrench is needed.
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The Ford F-150 Lightning Is the 2023 MotorTrend Truck Of The Year
The F-150 Lightning is the first electric pickup to appeal directly to existing truck buyers, doing it so well that it’s easily our 2023 Truck of the Year.
They are going to need that serviceability! Pouch cells are not that reliable and bloat is always a factor with them. It is no surprise Ford limits the charging rate.Lightning battery pack is serviceable to replace modules
What I found interesting in that video is just how poorly the space was utilized. Tesla does a far better job with this.
