Nother dead chonda

[Nick R]

So it's a 1 year old Craftsman snowblower with a 208CC OHV Chonda. It's worked, the governer was a bit wonky hunting and surging at maximum throttle. So during the snowstorm the other day I was using it and it just stalled out... Seemed like it ran out of gas. Put gas in it... Wouldn't start. Suffice it to say using the electric start, priming choke won't start. Pulled the spark plug and there appears to be spark, outside of the engine anyway. So I'm guessing the carb is just plugged or something.


PS Oh yes and I have it running Pennzoil Platinum 5w30

 

[Scienceman]

I hate those stupid nagging problems...

 

[bluestream]

You don't have good luck with motors!

 

[CourierDriver]

its a plane , its a bird, its time for Captain Marvel Mystery Oils famous elixer,,,,,,,,,,,hey its worked for me

 

[ksJoe]

Please update when you know what's really wrong with it. If it's just a plugged carb, I wouldn't call that "dead". To me, dead means a major mechanical failure or breakage.

I've seen complaints that honda's carbs have smaller ports and tend to plug up easier. That may (or may not) be true, but to me its just a potential maintenance hassle and nothing more. And that's assuming the problem is in the chonda's as well as the hondas.

 

[yeehaw1960]

Could be just another statistic. Did you manually prime it to see if it showed any signs of life? Dang head bolts on those things rattle loose and ruins the head gasket sometimes. You might use your thumb over the spark plug hole compression tester on it.

Did you replace your "Torch" sparkplug...sorry, I'm rubbing it in.

 

[CourierDriver]

dirt dirt dirt,,when it doubt look for it,,,its a thought

 

[boraticus]

Fuelus interuptus.

 

[OilNerd]

Originally Posted By: boraticus
Fuelus interuptus.


Good one!

 

[ksJoe]

Originally Posted By: boraticus
Fuelus interuptus.


Is this the engine disease thats spread by sharing a contaminated fuel can?

 

[Nick R]

Originally Posted By: yeehaw1960
Could be just another statistic. Did you manually prime it to see if it showed any signs of life? Dang head bolts on those things rattle loose and ruins the head gasket sometimes. You might use your thumb over the spark plug hole compression tester on it.

Did you replace your "Torch" sparkplug...sorry, I'm rubbing it in.


Didn't think to check the head gasket.. And no I didn't replace the "torch" spark plug (For indeed that is what it is) because I cannot find a model number ANYWHERE on it to cross reference. Like I said there seems to be spark. manually priming shows no signs of life, and can't get to air intake to spray start fluid. I tried fuel stabilizer, didn't do anything.

 

[JTK]

Originally Posted By: rudolphna
So it's a 1 year old Craftsman snowblower with a 208CC OHV Chonda. It's worked, the governer was a bit wonky hunting and surging at maximum throttle.


That's not a governor problem. That's the governor doing it's job actuating the throttle in an attempt to maintain a set RPM. The RPMs sound like they are swinging all over the place because of a air/fuel ratio issue. Something on this engine, or more than likely the carb is causing "Fuelus Interuptus" like boraticus said. It's your most common issue. Perhaps you could have a case of air leakatosis as well? (cracked gasket between carb and head). There's gotta be a cross-ref for that high quality factory sparkplug as well...

Joel

 

[boraticus]

Pull the plug and compare it to a plug from a similar engine. Chances are it will be the same. The thread type and hole diameter should be the same. Heat range and length of the threaded section of the spark plug might vary. Close inspection of the insulation around the central electrode and comparison measurements of the threaded portion will get you pretty close. Just make sure the threaded portion is the same length.

 

[CourierDriver]

see the dirt issue, clean it only and see what happens , use marvel m. oil 1st, its cheap

 

[gd9704]

I've had good luck using a healthy dose of Techron with fresh fuel.

My Mom's craftsman blower (2 stroke) was having dirty carb problems. I dosed up the fresh fuel with techron, kept the thing running a while with starter fluid, and after a few minutes of this action, the thing came back to life.

I don't know why engine manufacturers don't spend an extra 50 cents and add a disposable fuel filter to the fuel line.

 

[boraticus]

" don't know why engine manufacturers don't spend an extra 50 cents and add a disposable fuel filter to the fuel line."

Most manufacturers objectives is to build the product sufficiently well enough for it to run trouble free right up until one second past warranty date.

The dealers need work you know...

I went out a bought half a dozen or so small, inline filters for various applications on motorcycles, ATVs and OPE. Just don't buy brand name pieces (i.e. Briggs & Stratton) they charge $7.00 each! I got mine for $1.50 a piece. Any motorcycle shop should have them.

It's one of the best things you can do to an engine to keep it trouble free.

 

[lexus114]

Their carbs. are wacky, I`ll admit that. Mine is very hard to start when warm. Cold,no problem. (btw,I`m talking about my pressure washer w/the Chonda motor)

 

[lexus114]

Originally Posted By: boraticus
" don't know why engine manufacturers don't spend an extra 50 cents and add a disposable fuel filter to the fuel line."

Most manufacturers objectives is to build the product sufficiently well enough for it to run trouble free right up until one second past warranty date.

The dealers need work you know...

I went out a bought half a dozen or so small, inline filters for various applications on motorcycles, ATVs and OPE. Just don't buy brand name pieces (i.e. Briggs & Stratton) they charge $7.00 each! I got mine for $1.50 a piece. Any motorcycle shop should have them.

It's one of the best things you can do to an engine to keep it trouble free.


Mine has a screen in the gas tank. the fuel pours right through it. And I can remove it if I wanted to.

 

[boraticus]

I have a pressure washer with the same screen set up inside the fuel tank filler hole. My generator doesn't have that feature though.

 

[Cmarti]

It is a machine with no air or fuel filter. It can be a hung ring, no compression or a CI failure, but is usually dirt in a carb, hung up on some gum. Not dead quite yet!

The solvent can dissolve the gum and then the grit flows through. I am usually not that lucky and it requires a quick cleaning. However, they are amazingly simple carbs on small engines, and easily removed and cleaned.