Not impressed with ne Focus

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After just getting back home from a recent vacation, I thought I'd express my opinion on a new Ford Focus SE 5 door that I rented for ten days.
It was a rental model with about 13k on the odometer. Upon looking at the exterior design, I didn't have much opinion either way....but I did think the front end was rather plastic looking. When I entered the car I quickly noticed the interior being oddly laid out with angled dials and buttons that I found to be a bit too 'artsy' and modern for my tastes. It actually took me a while to become familiar with them....I'd say much longer so than any other rental I've had. The shift lever was really strange for me as the indicator of being in park or drive etc. was in the instrument cluster (although it did have it on the center column, it was difficult to tell if it was in gear). Seems like it would not be an issue yet when I engaged this car into drive there was no feeling the car was engaged in any way and caused me to wonder if I was in drive or not....same odd feeling when placing in reverse. The seats I found to be rather hard....but they were supportive. I did feel like I was sitting low to the ground so I had to raise them substantially to feel I had a good view of the road in all directions. The electronics were highly obnoxious for me. Very busy screen. I felt I needed to study the manual first before I could even figure out the sound system. I was not impressed. As I accelerated out of the parking garage I noticed a very disconnected feel to the throttle. I would give it gas and it almost seemed to pause before moving at any speed. The gas pedal was very firm as well and upon given it more throttle I noticed the tranny was very odd acting in my opinion. Rather clunky at times....and then almost slushy at others. The engine really seemed to rev very high in the first two shifts until reaching about 40mph where it finally seemed to smooth out. The engine in my opinion was noisy and obtrusive while under any throttle at all....and reminded me of an older Subaru (as in not smooth).
I found the ride of the Focus to be more harsh than my 2009 model and the overall comfort to be less. It did seem to handle a bit better....but for me the cost in comfort and noise was not worth it. MPG's seemed good of course. The hatchback style trunk was nice.....and the a/c functioned well (but was also very loud). Braking was good. Visibility was good once seat was raised.
I know that many find the 2009 Focus that I currently own as unattractive and not very 'sporty'. But in my opinion, and especially after getting home and back into my older Focus....I MUCH prefer my '09 model over the 2012 Focus.
 
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I agree with you about the centre stack and the electronics. I can do without them and would prefer it without them. But I think the 2012 is so far ahead of the previous generation in every other category. Looks, build quality, features. I don't know much about the dual clutch automatic as I've only ever driven the manual but my experience in a 2012 manual SE was good (Except for the dash and it's busy-ness)

Oh and the back seat is a joke. It was in the previous generation, and it still is.
 
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I believe the previous generation of Focus was the best looking.Truly the last of the "real" looking cars.Now everything has to be edgy and quirky,with no straight lines just strange "zoomy" angles.Give me simple and plain anyday.
 
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
I believe the previous generation of Focus was the best looking.Truly the last of the "real" looking cars.Now everything has to be edgy and quirky,with no straight lines just strange "zoomy" angles.Give me simple and plain anyday.


I agree 100%

Focus is not alone here and a lot of new cars simply look uglier and uglier the more I see them on the road. These I think will age terribly.
I find that the best aging cars, look wise, are the ones that don't look terribly attractive when introduced, but grow on me the more I see them in real life. The ones that look great in press pictures and have the latest "trendy" lines seem to fade pretty quickly into ugliness and usually look much older than they really are.
 
I have been working on a 2012 fit review (currently unfinished) and ill toss it here just for yucks. My views may change overtime as I live with the car.

I’m currently driving a '12 Honda Fit Sport. The shifter is nice, clutch take-up smooth and the front interior is spacious and the sport seats are pretty comfortable for the class (I’m a hurting 6'-1" 225Lbs). The HVAC controls are easy to reach and use having been moved off the ubiquitous center stack and into the upper dash just to the right of the tiller. Unfortunately, the handling on mine could best be called –“wonky”. The odd teardrop shaped steering wheel section doesn’t help the handhold, either. The front suspension exhibits lots of soccer mom body roll with terminal understeer displayed in six-tenths and up sporty commuting. If looking for a place to point fingers, when you view down the bodyline, the front wheels show POSITIVE camber - tilted OUT at the top. Hidden inside the wheel-well live struts the gauge of a beanpole (see, I didn’t use Nicole Richie on rock) This list of “improvements” adds up a drive that’s not anywhere near as fun as it could be - or has been – in small Hondas. It appears the R&D dept. lost the handling handle when they re-tuned the ride for comfort and lengthened the wheelbase - a ride which IS admittedly most likely best in class smooth. See what I get saddled with for your complaining, you silly Consumer Reporters!
On more of a positive note, the brakes are mushy, hard to modulate and of very long travel. Like they need a good bleeding – but they don’t, I’ve been assured. Surprisingly, there are no rear discs residing at the ends of the rear twist-beam axle – not included with the 1.5L Sport with ABS/ASC upgrade. Sorry Honda fan boys and fan girls, but I must flag such extreme penny-pinching on a Seventeen-Thousand plus dollar up-optioned, subcompact class vehicle. Jeepers, a fourteen-kilo dollar base Ford Ranger work truck comes with excellent performing 4 wheel discs, for the love of Pete. (Who is this Pete, anyway, and, why does he get all the love?)
Under hood we find the engine is rackety and producing power only when it’s in a good mood, but is typically coarse and thrashy otherwise in normal commuting. You might blame the gas quality – I do. This compact engine design specs a 3.5" stroke and long rods on but a pint-sized 1.5L (actually 3 pints!). History buffs would note you are in to a big Chevy 5.7litre truck engine stroke dimension! Really. Add in a 10 to 1 compression ratio swilling questionable 87 octane and retro jam-nut rocker lashed valves and no wonder the racket. I wouldn’t doubt that the specified 0w20 economising lubricant has more than a little bit to do with the racket. Sometime the planets align and the VTEC will give you your 117 horsepower. I wish this could happen when needed other than as a surprise party.
Ah, but super-duper fuel mileage in the time of four dollar a gallon fuel! Having driven a Yaris 3-door for many years which happily returned 39mpg average without economizing on the spurs, I will say the meager 33 mpg “test” average is very disappointing for the 100 pound heavier Honda Fit. Really Honda, a 2011 Forester AWD with a stick returns better than 30mpg average real world with a whopping whole liter bigger engine pulling almost 1000 lbs more running weight.
Where are the everyman tech and innovation and passion that have been Honda?

- Ken 5/31/12
 
I agree that the artsy center stacks on many new models is way too busy and way too organic for my tastes. Hyundai is very "guilty" (from my perspective) of this as well. I like interiors straight-forward and easy to use. You can achieve visual elegance without resorting to unconventional shapes. In fact, sometimes simplicity is beauty itself.
 
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Ah, but super-duper fuel mileage in the time of four dollar a gallon fuel! Having driven a Yaris 3-door for many years which happily returned 39mpg average without economizing on the spurs, I will say the meager 33 mpg “test” average is very disappointing for the 100 pound heavier Honda Fit. Really Honda, a 2011 Forester AWD with a stick returns better than 30mpg average real world with a whopping whole liter bigger engine pulling almost 1000 lbs more running weight.
Where are the everyman tech and innovation and passion that have been Honda?

- Ken 5/31/12




I'm feeling your pain.

My 07 fit (mid-trim, with AC, etc. but base steel wheel, etc.)

My city avg fuel mileage is 37mpg (6.3L/100kms) on 5 M/T.

My most recent trip yup snoqualmie pass (I-90) with myself +200lbs payload,avg. 80miles/hr on the highway, returned 42miles/gal on 87octane gas (cheep as i can be: I'm using Costco/Safeway/Freddie gas mainly).

dashboard rattles a bit after so many years under the sun, nevertheless: the car still works out ok. steering is sharp, much better than those rather numb/dull feeling of Korean subcompacts.

Also worth noting: shortly after I bought my car: I immediately swapped out my front stock pads with Akebono ceramics(from Rock Auto)...very sensitive/sharp/solid braking feel

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Personally, I don't like the old Focus. The ergonomics, most of all, were horrible.


the new Focus, works a lot better for me (had one for a week during a business trip)... but, the hill hold button... there shouldn't be a button. It should be on by default. The eco-meter thing... don't see the point of it.

Rear legroom... well...there isn't much.
 
Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
Personally, I don't like the old Focus. The ergonomics, most of all, were horrible.


the new Focus, works a lot better for me (had one for a week during a business trip)... but, the hill hold button... there shouldn't be a button. It should be on by default. The eco-meter thing... don't see the point of it.

Rear legroom... well...there isn't much.


That is one major gripe I have of that car. It's virtually pointless to have 4 doors, the backseat is like a torture chamber, not a comfortable place to be. Compare it to my Civic and the Civic must have a least double the rear legroom. It's perfectly comfortable for tall adults.
 
Exactly why I traded mine on a 2012 Chevy Cruze. The longer I had it the more I hated the way it worked, not to mention the inflated EPA rating on the gas mileage. After 14,000 miles I hit the 38 highway estimate one time. Yes only one time. I consistently do over 38 on the Cruze, last tank 40.29 mpg. Oh, by the way, I drive very little on the highway. Worst to date, 35.4 in the dead of winter. My Cruze is a LT not an ECO.
 
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Exactly why I traded mine on a 2012 Chevy Cruze. The longer I had it the more I hated the way it worked, not to mention the inflated EPA rating on the gas mileage. After 14,000 miles I hit the 38 highway estimate one time. Yes only one time. I consistently do over 38 on the Cruze, last tank 40.29 mpg. Oh, by the way, I drive very little on the highway. Worst to date, 35.4 in the dead of winter. My Cruze is a LT not an ECO.


I bought a new 2011 Cruze LT and have yet to get over 34mpg.
I rented a 2012 Focus and got an actual 38mpg highway (without trying).
The materials in the Cruze are probably a little better but the Focus handled better.

PS: I understand that GM made some changes to the gearing that have helped the MPG of the 2012 Cruze but you would think they would have had that sorted out in 2011....disappointing.
 
The looks are obviously a personal preference. I actually like how the new Focus looks much better than the previous one. I rode inside one (a rental) as a passenger, and I thought it was fine. I liked the somewhat techy interior and it seemed to handle well. I can't comment on how the drivetrain felt, but I've read that it's a much better car with a manual trans.
 
To each his own, I guess, but I'm really quite happy with my 2012 Focus. Ford has done a lot over the last couple months to revise the software controlling the engine and dual clutch transmission and it's a big improvement. I suspect the one you had was an older version that hasn't yet has the update. In my judgment, the car is very quiet for its class and is a great highway cruiser. No complaints at all on fuel economy. Agree the electronics are a bit busy, but are actually pretty intuitive given a little time.

The Cruze is a nice car, too and I almost bought one but thought the interior quality was far better in the Focus as were highway road manners. The Cruze does have nice around-town torque and a slightly larger back seat though, and deserves consideration.
 
I notice Ford's commercials seem to focus (no pun intended) on its center dashboard with all its high-tech electronics and entertainment type [censored] with all its advanced features. I refuse to buy a car that has all those silly unnecessary electronics that is made to keep the driver's eyes off the road.
 
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
I refuse to buy a car that has all those silly unnecessary electronics that is made to keep the driver's eyes off the road.

Don't most new cars provide the same or similar "distractions" these days? And let's face it, if a driver gets bored, he'll start talking and texting to keep himself entertained anyway.
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That is really one of the reasons I went with a Civic when looking at new cars. It is very simple inside and that is just the way I like it. Manual trans, dials for temperature control, its the way a car should be.
 
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
^^^Yes, you just cannot market a vehicle to the 'video game generation' without all of this useless carp!! (They just WILL NOT buy it!)
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I do not blame Ford ONE bit!
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I'm of that generation, and got a car that's bare-bones (for these super-feature-rich days) on the interior. About the only features it has besides the radio is built-in Bluetooth with steering wheel controls. Everything operates intuitively to me, which is a big plus. It is a proper manual transmission. Still working on getting the proper transmission with the proper RWD layout, though!

The interior of the Focus turned me off. Too busy, and couldn't get comfortable behind the wheel.
 
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
I notice Ford's commercials seem to focus (no pun intended) on its center dashboard with all its high-tech electronics and entertainment type [censored] with all its advanced features. I refuse to buy a car that has all those silly unnecessary electronics that is made to keep the driver's eyes off the road.



For what it's worth, the commercials show the version with "MyFordTouch", which is optional on most Focuses. Absent that the display shows time, temperature and song/artist information, so it's hardly overload. It will also display turn-by-turn navigation, but only if you ask.
 
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