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Non-Human Intelligence on Earth/a man with some credentials
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IMO the big question is the type of power source used to move the UAP's around. Remember the UAP's (Arial video and eyewitness accounts) did not emit exhaust gases nor have control surfaces. Solve that riddle and you have your answer.
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Which is exactly what I have said.
Please quote what I have said that disagrees with this statement.
Please quote a YouTube video I have linked here.
You are extrapolating a lot here, assuming because I am conflicting slightly with others’ opinions that my opinion must be diametrically opposed to theirs, and therefore I am saying aliens are real, these are aliens, etc. Never have I said this.
My point has been consistent here: There is evidence of something. It does not seem likely that this is fake or a ruse, aka nothing. Anyone outside the circle of those with exposure to these phenomena who dismisses it outright or who purports to know the cause are guided by bias.
If I were to speculate wildly about seemingly unlikely causes, frankly the ultraterrestrial or time travel angles seem equally or even somewhat more plausible. But these are speculations - I truly do not know, but it certainly merits attention.
Edit: This could also be contemporary human technology. If that is the case it would mean that someone probably cracked the code on a unified theory of gravity. The implications of that for humanity would be incredible. No matter what the explanation is, it still seems like a pretty big deal.
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It proves we’re run by idiots that are nothing more than a drain to society. It doesn’t prove anything else.
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Yep, spiritual transcendents with apparitional essences of power. Some scholars speculate there may be 10s of thousands of these fallen creatures. I can say many on earth will soon encounter them, plus their 'Giant' leaders, once a great snatch occurs.
I'll stop there also. We must play by the BITOG House Rules here.
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There is/are something, or things flying around that moves in ways we cant figure out.
After eliminating 99.9% of cases as explainable, there are unexplainable cases that have multi sensor/ eyeball correlation from trustworthy sources.
This is known, Obama told this to everyone on national television.
Some of us weren't surprised at all, others try incredibly hard to ignore this.
After this - it's all pure guesswork.
After eliminating 99.9% of cases as explainable, there are unexplainable cases that have multi sensor/ eyeball correlation from trustworthy sources.
This is known, Obama told this to everyone on national television.
Some of us weren't surprised at all, others try incredibly hard to ignore this.
After this - it's all pure guesswork.
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"Did not emit" is not the same as "did not detect emissions".
Today's stealth could have alien-like attributes just a number of decades ago as well, just as an example.
When it comes to stuff like aliens, the default position for any reasonable person should be: "we may not yet understand what that UAP was, but it's 99.999999% probable to be man made or miss sighted etc". Because that's what everything we know about space, time, physics, would suggest it to be. Until there is firm evidence that they exist here, there is no reason to suggest they do just because we don't yet have all the facts of what was "seen".
Could, should, maybe. Again it defies physics and fluid dynamics. Remember the tic tac is a smooth object about the size of a school bus. It needs to generate lift using some form of energy. How does it do that without control surfaces? How does it generate the amount of energy to move faster than a fighter jet in multiple directions while having a worse drag coefficient?
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The principle you’re using here is Occam’s Razor, which states that the simplest answer to the unexplained is usually the best one.
A complimentary scientific philosophy is the principle of multiple working hypotheses. This principle states that whenever an unexplained observation is made, creating multiple potentially plausible explanations can be beneficial to keep biases from affecting the analysis. This keeps the effort on falsifying several hypotheses rather than attempting to prove a single one and running the risk of confirmation bias.
Regarding “everything we know about space, time, physics, etc.” suggesting that there is no nonhuman intelligence (either terrestrial in origin or extraterrestrial) with an awareness greater than humanity’s, I’m not certain that’s entirely accurate to say so definitely. To be clear: nonhuman intelligence certainly does not seem likely, and Occam’s Razor is fine to apply, but so is multiple working hypotheses.
Fermi’s paradox could be neatly wrapped up, for example, if (big if) the reason we have not made contact yet is because we are purposely not being contacted. We have very little knowledge of our own deep oceans. We have good reason to hypothesize that conditions for life exist currently in our own solar system in several locations. We recognize that H. sapiens sapiens have only existed for the past roughly 100,000 years, and have only been scientifically literate for roughly 500 of those years, which we know is an incredibly short period of time in the context of deep time. We are still struggling to create a unified theory of physics to mesh relativity with quantum theory.
All this is to say, we need to be humble as a species. Because our scientific progress has been good, ironically, there’s now a lot we know we do not know.
Occam’s Razor suggests this, but it does not falsify any other explanation. Carl Sagan said, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” This certainly applies here. Just bear in mind, extraordinary evidence requires extraordinary change.
I heard the potential non-earthlings if they exist recommend M1 0W-40 for everything.
Basic logic and laws of physics as you understand them currently. Remember when the Earth was flat as a known fact and synthetic oil destroyed seals and made all motors leak?
Sci -Fi, Fairytale, crazy dreaming authors. 25-30 years ago in those fantasy books, people were printing the parts needed to replace broken stuff on their "space ship". Is that possible now?
Maybe out there, maybe not, I'll probably be long gone from this world or dimension if ever proven either way.
Basic logic and laws of physics as you understand them currently. Remember when the Earth was flat as a known fact and synthetic oil destroyed seals and made all motors leak?
Sci -Fi, Fairytale, crazy dreaming authors. 25-30 years ago in those fantasy books, people were printing the parts needed to replace broken stuff on their "space ship". Is that possible now?
Maybe out there, maybe not, I'll probably be long gone from this world or dimension if ever proven either way.
Problem with that statement is they've been doing it for at least 70 years. From back when the government seemed to be some what effective.
The original post embedded that video and you touted the credentials of the guest. I apologize - I was conflating your posts with the OP - but you did say that the guest in the linked video was credentialed.
I’ve read those credentials on LinkedIn - Colonel Nell. Electrical engineering major (not astrophysics). Retired Army Colonel. O-6 command. War college. No flight experience. No experience with the systems that tracked the recent UAP.
But a profile full of self promotion. Senior executive, manager, defense consultant, etc. He mentioned “Ivy League” several times.
Ugh. Please.
I’m just not that impressed.
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Gotcha. I can see how it might be interpreted that I said the guy in the video was credentialed, but my intention was only to point to Dr. Gallaudet.
Fair enough. I’m curious what you think of Dr. G.
Or we may have been put here by them a couple thousand years ago
It's possible there is life on other planets - and other than some brazillion to 1x10‾⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹ chance something they launched before there was time accidentally smacks the earth, they are not getting here.
That's my guess. I do have an open mind. Show me the money!
That's my guess. I do have an open mind. Show me the money!
It's a shame. Most won't go down the rabbit hole. They start with the assumption that physics prevents any ET from getting here. Fair point. They'll knock everyone that has had an experience that to them sounds crazy. Even people that are mentally stable with training on observables. Nah can't happen. You're nuts. It's just us....those types.
On the other side of the coin, are scientists and millions of people that have had experiences or seen things that are not: weather balloons, space junk, secret military craft, hoaxes. These people will tell you that they know what they saw and don't really care what others think. It moved in ways that defied physics. Disappeared in the blink of an eye...etc. Many don't even care about the topic to begin with. The anecdotal evidence is strong that some type of intelligence could be interacting with us. What it actually is remains a mystery....
I 100% believe the phenomenon is real. As to what it is and where it comes from, I have no idea.
BTW, they took down David Grusch's video on Jesse Michael's page. Weird.
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