Noise in Suzuki Grand Vitara

[widman]

An employee has a 2012 Grand Vitara with the 1.6 engine, 6000 miles. At idle (about 650 rpm) it is quiet. When you hold it at about 850 rpm (or switch on the AC that raises it to 850) there is a ticking or clicking sound from the lower part of the engine or somewhere.

Doesn't matter of it is cold or hot, clutch in or out.

Suzuki dealer is stumped. They admit that they have several others with the same noise. They are thinking the springs in the clutch plate, but haven't taken one apart to inspect.

Thoughts?

 

[NHGUY]

Its a manual tranny? Maybe the throwout bearing or input tranny bearing? Is the trans full of lube?

The initial quality of new vehicles today is something else.If they cause trouble right from the start,whats 10 years and 100K miles later going to be like? I consider a new vehicle today to be a "worst buy"...the high price,the huge depreciation,the super complicated electronic systems,more and more dependence on the OEM for parts availability.A climate control computer is not going to be available at NAPA anytime soon....

 

[browning300wsm]

Originally Posted By: widman
An employee has a 2012 Grand Vitara with the 1.6 engine, 6000 miles. At idle (about 650 rpm) it is quiet. When you hold it at about 850 rpm (or switch on the AC that raises it to 850) there is a ticking or clicking sound from the lower part of the engine or somewhere.

Doesn't matter of it is cold or hot, clutch in or out.

Suzuki dealer is stumped. They admit that they have several others with the same noise. They are thinking the springs in the clutch plate, but haven't taken one apart to inspect.

Thoughts?


timing chain binder most likely..The Grand Vitara is offered in three trims: Base, Premium, and Limited. The standard engine is a 166-hp 2.4-liter four-cylinder available with a five-speed manual .

 

[widman]

Here it is offered with this 16 valve 1.6 liter 4 cyl.

 

[browning300wsm]

Originally Posted By: widman
Here it is offered with this 16 valve 1.6 liter 4 cyl.


thanks for the heads up ..i see u r in BOLIVIA ..

 

[Hootbro]

Is there a warranty with new vehicle purchase in Boliva and if so, do the dealerships generally honor them?

I have been to some small countries that basically you are on your own when driving the a new vehicle off the lot "as is".

 

[widman]

That is often the case. No warranty, but Suzuki warranties certain things for 100,000 km. They did not replace my clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing etc. at 56,000 miles under warranty in my delivery van. Said clutches are not covered, and we went more than most. They usually replace clutches between 20,000 and 30,000 miles.

Jeep is good with the warranty, including updating the computer or scans and things like that, no questions asked. Nissan wanted to charge $80 to reprogram the computer on my Nissan van when it forgot its programing. After negotiating they removed the charge. But insist on air filters at 6000 miles, oil changes at 3000, serpentine belts at 20,000. All at inflated prices. Ant only 30,000 mile warranty.

I normally buy new vehicles since they come with VAT credit of 13% and you can depreciate them over 4 years. Buy a used one and in order to put it on the books you have to pay 15% sales tax on the purchase price, then get no credits. So it is roughly 28% cheaper to buy new. You also no that nobody has messed it up.

 

[IndyIan]

My 2.0L in the Tracker has had a whining/whirring at 2200rpm and a bit of a valve train rattle at 3000rpm since new, I sort of worried about it at first, but its never really changed and 200,000km later I'm not worried about it now. I think these SUV's are engineered with durability first and NVH is not a high priority.
suzuki-forums.com is a good place to research though if your noise is an actual problem though.

 

[Hootbro]

Originally Posted By: widman
That is often the case. No warranty, but Suzuki warranties certain things for 100,000 km. They did not replace my clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing etc. at 56,000 miles under warranty in my delivery van. Said clutches are not covered, and we went more than most. They usually replace clutches between 20,000 and 30,000 miles.

Jeep is good with the warranty, including updating the computer or scans and things like that, no questions asked. Nissan wanted to charge $80 to reprogram the computer on my Nissan van when it forgot its programing. After negotiating they removed the charge. But insist on air filters at 6000 miles, oil changes at 3000, serpentine belts at 20,000. All at inflated prices. Ant only 30,000 mile warranty.

I normally buy new vehicles since they come with VAT credit of 13% and you can depreciate them over 4 years. Buy a used one and in order to put it on the books you have to pay 15% sales tax on the purchase price, then get no credits. So it is roughly 28% cheaper to buy new. You also no that nobody has messed it up.


Even in the USA, clutches are considered a wear item and warranty replacements are far and few between.