My wife took our daughter's Impreza to a cheapo oil change place and the DD said that it was hard to start after sitting for a few hours, but then ran OK. She said that she first cranked it for about 10 second with no start, then it finally started after a few seconds on the second crank.
I looked to make sure there was actually oil in the sump and coolant in the reservoir (OK on those), but then I noticed they had used a CARQUEST oil filter. I don't know anything about those and have been careful to use filters meeting the higher bypass pressure specs on our Subarus, so I decided to put a Mazda branded Tokyo Roki on her car and check out the CARQUEST filter later. Has the same bypass pressure spec as the Subaru Tokyo Roki OEM filters and the Fram blue cans, plus it looks to be extremely similar externally to the Tokyo Roki AA160 filters that came on our two Subarus from the factory.
Well, I am ashamed to admit that the gorilla who installed the mystery filter defeated me, as I could not get the thing off the car with my bare hands or grip gloves (which were actually worse than bare hands)...I had to swallow my pride and get a strap wrench from WalMart. Once the stinkin filter came off, I noticed that it very little oil in it...it either had no ADBV or the valve had failed. I actually tried to get some oil to come out of the filter with no luck, usually I get a little bit of a mess in the cup when I change my filter and have to be careful to turn it over quickly to not get oil all over the car. I put the filter from my stash on the car after cleaning up the cup good (cheapo place didn't bother to clean it), putting a tad of oil in the new filter, and oiling the gasket.
I'm just wondering if the lack of or a faulty ADBV could actually result in such long cranking. The filter is mounted on top of her engine (same as mine) and she never had a long crank before, even below zero in the winter. I did start her car some time before I got to work on it, after it had been sitting for some time, and it turned over quickly. I will take a closer look at the CARQUEST filter this weekend to see if I can identify an ADBV.
I thought it was interesting that the cup her filter mounts into was quite a bit different from mine, I just have a thin aluminum (I think) cup and hers was much beefier and seemed to have some kind of drain in it. I actually don't think I could use the Tokyo Roki AA170 filters I use in my FXT in her car, as they are pretty wide and don't seem likely to mate up with the surface in her cup properly.
I looked to make sure there was actually oil in the sump and coolant in the reservoir (OK on those), but then I noticed they had used a CARQUEST oil filter. I don't know anything about those and have been careful to use filters meeting the higher bypass pressure specs on our Subarus, so I decided to put a Mazda branded Tokyo Roki on her car and check out the CARQUEST filter later. Has the same bypass pressure spec as the Subaru Tokyo Roki OEM filters and the Fram blue cans, plus it looks to be extremely similar externally to the Tokyo Roki AA160 filters that came on our two Subarus from the factory.
Well, I am ashamed to admit that the gorilla who installed the mystery filter defeated me, as I could not get the thing off the car with my bare hands or grip gloves (which were actually worse than bare hands)...I had to swallow my pride and get a strap wrench from WalMart. Once the stinkin filter came off, I noticed that it very little oil in it...it either had no ADBV or the valve had failed. I actually tried to get some oil to come out of the filter with no luck, usually I get a little bit of a mess in the cup when I change my filter and have to be careful to turn it over quickly to not get oil all over the car. I put the filter from my stash on the car after cleaning up the cup good (cheapo place didn't bother to clean it), putting a tad of oil in the new filter, and oiling the gasket.
I'm just wondering if the lack of or a faulty ADBV could actually result in such long cranking. The filter is mounted on top of her engine (same as mine) and she never had a long crank before, even below zero in the winter. I did start her car some time before I got to work on it, after it had been sitting for some time, and it turned over quickly. I will take a closer look at the CARQUEST filter this weekend to see if I can identify an ADBV.
I thought it was interesting that the cup her filter mounts into was quite a bit different from mine, I just have a thin aluminum (I think) cup and hers was much beefier and seemed to have some kind of drain in it. I actually don't think I could use the Tokyo Roki AA170 filters I use in my FXT in her car, as they are pretty wide and don't seem likely to mate up with the surface in her cup properly.