They are nice looking I`ll give them that. But anything in relation to Renault scare`s me away.
Nissan Altima is #1 Midsize Car in America
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Looks like it only took 12 years for the country to catch up with my tastes!
On a sad note, my wife's '99 Altima GXe got hit in a parking lot hit-and-run, yesterday, by a truck. It did quite a number on the fender and bumper cover, and popped out the right side lamps. $1,727 of damage (estimate).
There are a lot of cameras around the hospital, so I hope the City Police can catch the guy.
On a sad note, my wife's '99 Altima GXe got hit in a parking lot hit-and-run, yesterday, by a truck. It did quite a number on the fender and bumper cover, and popped out the right side lamps. $1,727 of damage (estimate).
There are a lot of cameras around the hospital, so I hope the City Police can catch the guy.
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
I'll agree that the new Altima is a very nice looking car, they've developed a pretty good reputation over the years.
A good reputation for being turds. Anything 01 - older was pure junk, 02-03 altimas are/were ticking time bombs with the qr25, and even up till 06 they still had problems with the engines (I got a recall notice for my 06 to have the engine tested). Not too sure on the 07+ but they still use the qr25...
They are decent cars because of all the features you get for the price, but long term, they are money pits. Mine has 92k miles and I have a list of things that I've had to replace that I think have worn premature.
I'll agree that the new Altima is a very nice looking car, they've developed a pretty good reputation over the years.
A good reputation for being turds. Anything 01 - older was pure junk, 02-03 altimas are/were ticking time bombs with the qr25, and even up till 06 they still had problems with the engines (I got a recall notice for my 06 to have the engine tested). Not too sure on the 07+ but they still use the qr25...
They are decent cars because of all the features you get for the price, but long term, they are money pits. Mine has 92k miles and I have a list of things that I've had to replace that I think have worn premature.
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Originally Posted By: moving2
antonmnster- while we're talking logical fallacies-- implying that your personal experience and the small sample size of your observations allows you to make a generalization about Nissan owners in your area, much less Nissan owners in general, is a logical fallacy known as "hasty generalization".
Well, yeah, this forum could be known as the Home of the Hasty Generalzation.
antonmnster- while we're talking logical fallacies-- implying that your personal experience and the small sample size of your observations allows you to make a generalization about Nissan owners in your area, much less Nissan owners in general, is a logical fallacy known as "hasty generalization".
Well, yeah, this forum could be known as the Home of the Hasty Generalzation.
Originally Posted By: lexus114
They are nice looking I`ll give them that. But anything in relation to Renault scare`s me away.
Could you elaborate more on the fear?
Are you still holding the same thoughts that you had in the 70-80's?
They are nice looking I`ll give them that. But anything in relation to Renault scare`s me away.
Could you elaborate more on the fear?
Are you still holding the same thoughts that you had in the 70-80's?
Few year back, a cop came into shop for hair cut, he say altima is really fast car then his crown vic.
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
According to CR, the top three automakers were 1) Honda, 2) Subaru, and 3) Toyota, as far as quality and reliability are concerned. Ford was #5, Chrysler and GM were nestled at the bottom, lol.
Yeah...I'm laughing too because you believe Consumer Reports.
+1
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
According to CR, the top three automakers were 1) Honda, 2) Subaru, and 3) Toyota, as far as quality and reliability are concerned. Ford was #5, Chrysler and GM were nestled at the bottom, lol.
Yeah...I'm laughing too because you believe Consumer Reports.
+1
Originally Posted By: A_A_G
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
I'll agree that the new Altima is a very nice looking car, they've developed a pretty good reputation over the years.
A good reputation for being turds. Anything 01 - older was pure junk, 02-03 altimas are/were ticking time bombs with the qr25, and even up till 06 they still had problems with the engines (I got a recall notice for my 06 to have the engine tested). Not too sure on the 07+ but they still use the qr25...
They are decent cars because of all the features you get for the price, but long term, they are money pits. Mine has 92k miles and I have a list of things that I've had to replace that I think have worn premature.
I've seen a few that were pure junk, but I also know of a few that are doing quite well...
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
I'll agree that the new Altima is a very nice looking car, they've developed a pretty good reputation over the years.
A good reputation for being turds. Anything 01 - older was pure junk, 02-03 altimas are/were ticking time bombs with the qr25, and even up till 06 they still had problems with the engines (I got a recall notice for my 06 to have the engine tested). Not too sure on the 07+ but they still use the qr25...
They are decent cars because of all the features you get for the price, but long term, they are money pits. Mine has 92k miles and I have a list of things that I've had to replace that I think have worn premature.
I've seen a few that were pure junk, but I also know of a few that are doing quite well...
Originally Posted By: A_A_G
They are decent cars because of all the features you get for the price, but long term, they are money pits. Mine has 92k miles and I have a list of things that I've had to replace that I think have worn premature.
The 1st gen Muranos are the same, judging from the issues being posted on the forum. The issues are really no worse than some of the wear issues I had with my Saturn, but it is still unacceptable.
Originally Posted By: CamaroT56
Few year back, a cop came into shop for hair cut, he say altima is really fast car then his crown vic.
Our Altima:
http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/altima/2010/road-test.html
Crown Vic:
http://www.insideline.com/mercury/grand-...-full-test.html
0-60 in 6.8 seconds and 1/4 mile in 14.8 sec at 97.5 mph. And it has a ton of low-end torque for in-town driving.
The Crown Vic does a 0-60 in 9.3. Even a 4-cyl Accord is faster than that.
They are decent cars because of all the features you get for the price, but long term, they are money pits. Mine has 92k miles and I have a list of things that I've had to replace that I think have worn premature.
The 1st gen Muranos are the same, judging from the issues being posted on the forum. The issues are really no worse than some of the wear issues I had with my Saturn, but it is still unacceptable.
Originally Posted By: CamaroT56
Few year back, a cop came into shop for hair cut, he say altima is really fast car then his crown vic.
Our Altima:
http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/altima/2010/road-test.html
Crown Vic:
http://www.insideline.com/mercury/grand-...-full-test.html
0-60 in 6.8 seconds and 1/4 mile in 14.8 sec at 97.5 mph. And it has a ton of low-end torque for in-town driving.
The Crown Vic does a 0-60 in 9.3. Even a 4-cyl Accord is faster than that.
Yeah, a lot of cars are faster than the Crown Vic. My 4-cylinder Camry (at 8.3 seconds to 60) outruns a stock 'Vic.
Originally Posted By: A_A_G
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
I'll agree that the new Altima is a very nice looking car, they've developed a pretty good reputation over the years.
A good reputation for being turds. Anything 01 - older was pure junk, 02-03 altimas are/were ticking time bombs with the qr25, and even up till 06 they still had problems with the engines (I got a recall notice for my 06 to have the engine tested). Not too sure on the 07+ but they still use the qr25...
They are decent cars because of all the features you get for the price, but long term, they are money pits. Mine has 92k miles and I have a list of things that I've had to replace that I think have worn premature.
Exactly right! Except in the case of the 02-03 2.5L, POS would be more apt. I know this from first hand experience, Nissan hung every owner (myself included) of a 2.5L out to dry. Didn't even extend the engine warranty for a known defect (precat) that would/will prematurely grenade the engine. NOT a matter of 'if' it would happen, but WHEN it would/will happen.
Add to that the rusting/rusted subframes, the endless crank angle/camshaft position sensor and frozen fuel filler tube issues, thus pos title.
Think the article is rather lame from the standpoint of not going back to research what the incentives were during said time period. As for the comments regarding the Altima being better looking than the current Accord and Camry, not saying very much, imo.
So, as I said in my thread regarding 'no more Nissan's for me', fool me once shame on you (Nissan), fool me twice shame on me.
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
I'll agree that the new Altima is a very nice looking car, they've developed a pretty good reputation over the years.
A good reputation for being turds. Anything 01 - older was pure junk, 02-03 altimas are/were ticking time bombs with the qr25, and even up till 06 they still had problems with the engines (I got a recall notice for my 06 to have the engine tested). Not too sure on the 07+ but they still use the qr25...
They are decent cars because of all the features you get for the price, but long term, they are money pits. Mine has 92k miles and I have a list of things that I've had to replace that I think have worn premature.
Exactly right! Except in the case of the 02-03 2.5L, POS would be more apt. I know this from first hand experience, Nissan hung every owner (myself included) of a 2.5L out to dry. Didn't even extend the engine warranty for a known defect (precat) that would/will prematurely grenade the engine. NOT a matter of 'if' it would happen, but WHEN it would/will happen.
Add to that the rusting/rusted subframes, the endless crank angle/camshaft position sensor and frozen fuel filler tube issues, thus pos title.
Think the article is rather lame from the standpoint of not going back to research what the incentives were during said time period. As for the comments regarding the Altima being better looking than the current Accord and Camry, not saying very much, imo.
So, as I said in my thread regarding 'no more Nissan's for me', fool me once shame on you (Nissan), fool me twice shame on me.
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
My Subie at 116,000 miles is in far better shape than most GM cars at 100k miles. Our car lot won't even put a GM car on the lot with more than 75K on it, because the recon cost is astronomical, they usually need a lot of work, along with the Chrysler's. The Asian marques that we get in, usually need very little work.
GM parts are cheaper than any other manufacturer in general. What parts do the GMs need? Sounds to me like more made up [censored] typical of this forum. I would put a GM car up any day against Nissan or Subaru for lower cost of ownership.
My Subie at 116,000 miles is in far better shape than most GM cars at 100k miles. Our car lot won't even put a GM car on the lot with more than 75K on it, because the recon cost is astronomical, they usually need a lot of work, along with the Chrysler's. The Asian marques that we get in, usually need very little work.
GM parts are cheaper than any other manufacturer in general. What parts do the GMs need? Sounds to me like more made up [censored] typical of this forum. I would put a GM car up any day against Nissan or Subaru for lower cost of ownership.
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
According to CR, the top three automakers were 1) Honda, 2) Subaru, and 3) Toyota, as far as quality and reliability are concerned. Ford was #5, Chrysler and GM were nestled at the bottom, lol.
True, but the Altima was their top rated family sedan. Just wish Nissan could build a decent manual tranny.
According to CR, the top three automakers were 1) Honda, 2) Subaru, and 3) Toyota, as far as quality and reliability are concerned. Ford was #5, Chrysler and GM were nestled at the bottom, lol.
True, but the Altima was their top rated family sedan. Just wish Nissan could build a decent manual tranny.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Yeah, a lot of cars are faster than the Crown Vic. My 4-cylinder Camry (at 8.3 seconds to 60) outruns a stock 'Vic.
Cops don't usually drive "stock" Crown Vics, as we all know I'm sure.
Certainly there are many faster vehicles on the road than police cars.
You can't outrun a Motorola though, as the saying goes. They don't need to be able to out-drag people to get them.
Yeah, a lot of cars are faster than the Crown Vic. My 4-cylinder Camry (at 8.3 seconds to 60) outruns a stock 'Vic.
Cops don't usually drive "stock" Crown Vics, as we all know I'm sure.
Certainly there are many faster vehicles on the road than police cars.
You can't outrun a Motorola though, as the saying goes. They don't need to be able to out-drag people to get them.
I've been pleasantly surprised at the parts cost on my Subie, its very reasonable, at least on the parts I've had to buy so far. The all-data labor times are low too, its a pretty easy car to work on.
Most of the major repairs on the GM cars have fallen under the warranty, the Outlook's love to puke steering racks around 30K miles and PS pumps around 50K miles, not to mention the tranny's that get replaced around 60K miles, good o'le GM quality I tell ya.
If you have one of these vehicles, you better hope its a warranty repair, a steering rack out of pocket is about $1200 installed.
If you want to see some outrageous parts cost, take a look at Kia, lol.
Most of the major repairs on the GM cars have fallen under the warranty, the Outlook's love to puke steering racks around 30K miles and PS pumps around 50K miles, not to mention the tranny's that get replaced around 60K miles, good o'le GM quality I tell ya.
If you have one of these vehicles, you better hope its a warranty repair, a steering rack out of pocket is about $1200 installed.
If you want to see some outrageous parts cost, take a look at Kia, lol.
Originally Posted By: kelpie
^^^I wonder if that's because of the gearing in the rear end?
The gearing for Police Interceptor Crown Vics is either 3.27 or 3.55 -- a regular Crown Vic may be 2.73 or 3.08. It depends on the year, but in general, the police crown vics have shorter gearing in the rear.
^^^I wonder if that's because of the gearing in the rear end?
The gearing for Police Interceptor Crown Vics is either 3.27 or 3.55 -- a regular Crown Vic may be 2.73 or 3.08. It depends on the year, but in general, the police crown vics have shorter gearing in the rear.
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
According to CR, the top three automakers were 1) Honda, 2) Subaru, and 3) Toyota, as far as quality and reliability are concerned. Ford was #5, Chrysler and GM were nestled at the bottom, lol.
Yeah...I'm laughing too because you believe Consumer Reports.
Not a surprise response from a GM guy, but why shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message?
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
According to CR, the top three automakers were 1) Honda, 2) Subaru, and 3) Toyota, as far as quality and reliability are concerned. Ford was #5, Chrysler and GM were nestled at the bottom, lol.
Yeah...I'm laughing too because you believe Consumer Reports.
Not a surprise response from a GM guy, but why shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message?
I can tell you from personal experience GM has the best front wheel drive transmission (4 speed auto) in existence. Was told that by a transmission shop. The 6 speeds haven't been out long enough to really tell. If you take care of the transmission (change oil, filter (every 25-30K), the trans will last 200K+ miles.
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
According to CR, the top three automakers were 1) Honda, 2) Subaru, and 3) Toyota, as far as quality and reliability are concerned. Ford was #5, Chrysler and GM were nestled at the bottom, lol.
Yeah...I'm laughing too because you believe Consumer Reports.
Ha, this says it all for me. Worthless rag IMO.
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
According to CR, the top three automakers were 1) Honda, 2) Subaru, and 3) Toyota, as far as quality and reliability are concerned. Ford was #5, Chrysler and GM were nestled at the bottom, lol.
Yeah...I'm laughing too because you believe Consumer Reports.
Ha, this says it all for me. Worthless rag IMO.
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