it pulls from "sources" like wikipedia and reddit for starters. Not exactly cracker-jack level data sourcing ime for all things.
New Vehicle Oil Choice
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Supertech
Supertech/Kirkland for max OCI otherwise you’ll be motor oil poor and never financially recover.RIPyour car not doing first change at 224.327 (repeating) miles and not using Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W30.
I dumped the Kia FF 0W-20 at 1,200 miles on the Carnival and went with Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-30. I plan to change it at the 5k mark in the spring so for the short winter interval that it will be used for, it’s fine.
Still mentally debating on whether to go with Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 or Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30 for the summer interval.
If it's clean, there's no harm. But how do you know it's clean if you don't change it? At the very least, shouldn't you cut the factory filter open ASAP? And if replacing the oem filter, why not just change the oil?
Patman
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There could be the very real possibility of harm if you leave it in. Just look at the Toyota Tundra and GM 6.2 situations for example.
I’ve pulled many vvt solenoids over the years with some interesting debris in the screens. I often wondered if it was machining debris.
A lot of questions I ask Grok about this subject, it ends up pulling information from THIS forum with links
When you look at the element inside of a filter it's hard to believe that metal particles large enough to be seen with the naked eye could pass through it . 
edyvw
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We did experiment and ChatGPT told my faculty member to cite article that didn’t exist but apparently she wrote it.A lot of questions I ask Grok about this subject, it ends up pulling information from THIS forum with links
Unless it happens to be one of the ruffled leaf spring, ripped media, misaligned ADBV versions. There "might" be a picture or two on this forum with them.When you look at the element inside of a filter it's hard to believe that metal particles large enough to be seen with the naked eye could pass through it .
I'm going to assume that is not the norm .
I have seen some horribly, laughably, inaccurate answers from Grok. Particularly on technical topics, AI answers tend to be wildly untrustworthy. Look, some random guy on the Internet can be equally unreliable, but at least in this forum you get several opinions, most of which you’re accurate. It takes some critical thinking to discern the difference. In the end, you get an accurate answer, as well as avoiding a terrible mistake.A lot of questions I ask Grok about this subject, it ends up pulling information from THIS forum with links
f355spider
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Correct answer!
I found this on a Honda dealership website:
Q: My Honda is equipped with Break-in Oil, should I change it early?
A: No. To ensure the proper engine break-in, the factory-fill oil needs to remain in the engine until your first maintenance interval. The only difference between the factory fill oil and the Honda replacement oil is the Molybdenum lubricant that is applied to specific engine components.
f355spider
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Honda dealership website:
https://www.invergrovehonda.com/hon...,A: No.,applied to specific engine components.
Q: My Honda is equipped with Break-in Oil, should I change it early?
A: No. To ensure the proper engine break-in, the factory-fill oil needs to remain in the engine until your first maintenance interval. The only difference between the factory fill oil and the Honda replacement oil is the Molybdenum lubricant that is applied to specific engine components.
I also don’t just accept what it says blindly. I came here for input after using Grok as a part of the research.
Carlostrece
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I agree with that ^.
I suggest buying a pair/set of Filtermag oil filter neodynium magnets and put them on the oil filter ASAP. This will remove metal breakin particles that are too small for oil filter to catch.
I think Filtermag is a good idea for ongoing use after breakin, but especially helpful during breakin period, IMO.
My cousin put my pair of Filter Magnets on exterior of my oil filter today. They are Filtermag SS that I bought via Amazon. First I went to Filtermag.com for help deciding which model, size, part # to get. I think Summit Racing is another good place to buy.
Filters can only (reliably) filter particles as small a X microns @ 99%. My NAPA Gold filter filters 23 microns @ 99%. Which is pretty good enough.
However, Filtermag adds complete filtration of magnetic particles (steel & iron) of all sizes. That sounds like a good thing to me.
Filters can only (reliably) filter particles as small a X microns @ 99%. My NAPA Gold filter filters 23 microns @ 99%. Which is pretty good enough.
However, Filtermag adds complete filtration of magnetic particles (steel & iron) of all sizes. That sounds like a good thing to me.
Carlostrece
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I also suggest changing ATF, PSF, and diff oil early with a new car (if this car has those things), but I don't know how early is appropriate for this car. The idea is to wait long enough for wear metals to be in the ATF, PSF, & diff oil; then change oil to remove the particles.
Also change ATF filter, if it has one. Some Japanese cars have a replaceable internal filter over the valve body. Soms have a replaceable inline filter in an ATF cooling line between AT & radiator. Some don't have a replaceable filter. I don't know the specifics of this car's AT filtration.
Also change ATF filter, if it has one. Some Japanese cars have a replaceable internal filter over the valve body. Soms have a replaceable inline filter in an ATF cooling line between AT & radiator. Some don't have a replaceable filter. I don't know the specifics of this car's AT filtration.
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