New tool thread

[Sam_Julier]

Almost SO expensive and warranty can be challenging.

I have not heard or read of any Ko-Ken warranty issues. I’m open to any negative reviews so please post them.

Costs are taken from Snap-On and Ko-Ken websites for a 3/8” drive, 10mm socket:

Snap-On: $20.10 before tax and delivery

Ko-Ken: $4.73 after tax and delivery

 

[Trav]

Almost SO expensive and warranty can be challenging.

Okay I get burned for the tax but warranty is no issue whatsoever and the prices are good for the quality of the tools.

 

[clinebarger]

Buddy of mine retired from the City (Equipment Services) & is selling most of his tools, Didn't have much that interested me except a Injector Puller set & a Snap-on Air Powered cooling system pressure tester kit....Didn't need the Matco compression tester but he threw it in as these are the last of his tools in blow molded cases.

Found it strange he was getting rid of all his tools & did ask about it.....Said he never wants to work on a piece of equipment again EVER, And doesn't want to be asked to work on anything or loan tools. He's been burned out for a couple years now. Curious how long he stays retired. Put in 32 years at the City, Hired on at 18.

 

[The Critic]

I have not heard or read of any Ko-Ken warranty issues. I’m open to any negative reviews so please post them.

Okay I get burned for the tax but warranty is no issue whatsoever and the prices are good for the quality of the tools.

This does not look promising at all:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/hows-kokens-warranty-policy.492264/post-9407199

Costs are taken from Snap-On and Ko-Ken websites for a 3/8” drive, 10mm socket:

Snap-On: $20.10 before tax and delivery

Ko-Ken: $4.73 after tax and delivery

Since the posting of my 22mm lug nut socket was what brought this matter to light, let's compare Koken USA's pricing to Snap-On:

Koken-USA = $44.68
https://kokenusa.com/products/wheelnut-long-socket-1-2sq-dr-22mm

Snap-On SIMMF22A = $41
https://shop.snapon.com/product/Ext...e-Thin-Wall-Extra-Deep-Impact-Socket/SIMMF22A

For the record, I bought mine from Zoro with a 20% off code, so I paid $28.54 + tax. Still, this is quite close to Snap-On pricing....especially since one can usually get a discount on Snap-On tools without too much hassle.

 

[The Critic]

Lisle 39mm 12-pt socket for certain Toyota axle nuts
Snap-On FRHM14
Snap-On FRHM17
Snap-On TMUSM7A
Snap-On STMML10A
VIM 8” magrail
PRT 71117 Toyota Oil Filter Tool (backup for me)
Schley Products 65420 - chisel for unstaking Toyota axle nuts. I accidentally broke my other one.
Grey Pneumatic 3/8” dr 7mm std depth Impact socket

 

[Trav]

This does not look promising at all:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/hows-kokens-warranty-policy.492264/post-9407199


Since the posting of my 22mm lug nut socket was what brought this matter to light, let's compare Koken USA's pricing to Snap-On:

Koken-USA = $44.68
https://kokenusa.com/products/wheelnut-long-socket-1-2sq-dr-22mm

Snap-On SIMMF22A = $41
https://shop.snapon.com/product/Ext...e-Thin-Wall-Extra-Deep-Impact-Socket/SIMMF22A

For the record, I bought mine from Zoro with a 20% off code, so I paid $28.54 + tax. Still, this is quite close to Snap-On pricing....especially since one can usually get a discount on Snap-On tools without too much hassle.

I suspect there is more to this story than is being told, I broke a Proto impact, it didn't break I broke it and knew full well that was going to be a possibility before I did what I did to it. I wouldn't try to warranty it I just replaced it.
That Koken wheel nut socket is a thin wall socket which tells me it is a specialty socket, for day to day use a thicker socket it going to be the one that last.

Why not just use a stubby extension on a regular impact socket if clearance is an issue or if the gun is doing tire shop duty use a long anvil impact gun.

 

[PKFan]

Lisle 39mm 12-pt socket for certain Toyota axle nuts
Snap-On FRHM14
Snap-On FRHM17
Snap-On TMUSM7A
Snap-On STMML10A
VIM 8” magrail
PRT 71117 Toyota Oil Filter Tool (backup for me)
Schley Products 65420 - chisel for unstaking Toyota axle nuts. I accidentally broke my other one.
Grey Pneumatic 3/8” dr 7mm std depth Impact socket

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I didn't know the unstaking tool existed and wish I had had one when I replaced my Sienna's wheel bearing. I garfed up the axle spinning the nut off, but it was still usable, fortunately.
ETA: I did try to unstake it with a punch, but I'm afraid I didn't do a very good job.

 

[The Critic]

That Koken wheel nut socket is a thin wall socket which tells me it is a specialty socket, for day to day use a thicker socket it going to be the one that last.

Why not just use a stubby extension on a regular impact socket if clearance is an issue or if the gun is doing tire shop duty use a long anvil impact gun.

A lot of newer wheel designs have tighter wheel clearances, especially the aftermarket ones. That is the main reason why I purchased this socket - it is extremely thin and provides a greater margin of error. The 17/19/21 were purchased in a 3-pk from Amazon for $51 otd, so they are somewhat cheap enough to be consumables. Not crazy about the price that I had to pay for the 22mm, but it is what it is.

Stubby extension with a socket is an option, but the one-piece design is quicker to grab and does have less torque loss.

 

[nthach]

I didn't know the unstaking tool existed and wish I had had one when I replaced my Sienna's wheel bearing. I garfed up the axle spinning the nut off, but it was still usable, fortunately.
ETA: I did try to unstake it with a punch, but I'm afraid I didn't do a very good job.

Amazon sells a Taiwanese set that’s cheaper than the Schley Tools ones I’ve used wirh success. But it’s soft.

 

[Owen Lucas]

And doesn't want to be asked to work on anything or loan tools

A good excuse for not lending tools, especially things like saws and ladders, is that if they fail, someone gets hurt, or anything really, you can get sued.

The borrowers attorney will say that you lent a broken ladder, even if it's not true, but you are now sucked in to a law suit against your homeowners or even your personal savings / assets at exposed. Even if you win the case, your rates will probably go up besides being a huge pain.

Easy excuse not to lend out tools is "my homeowners insurance doesn't allow it". If they argue that point, they aren't worth of being lent to anyway, they should go to Home Depot.

 

[Trav]

A lot of newer wheel designs have tighter wheel clearances, especially the aftermarket ones. That is the main reason why I purchased this socket - it is extremely thin and provides a greater margin of error. The 17/19/21 were purchased in a 3-pk from Amazon for $51 otd, so they are somewhat cheap enough to be consumables. Not crazy about the price that I had to pay for the 22mm, but it is what it is.

Stubby extension with a socket is an option, but the one-piece design is quicker to grab and does have less torque loss.

Are you worried about torque loss on lug nuts? There is not much being lost with a 2" anyway, I think that socket is more for use on special wheels like carbon and sensitive finish and as you say for close fitting lugs for all others it would not be on my gun.

 

[AutoMechanic]

Here is a surprise package today. This one from our member @The Critic . 1/2 drive swivel impact sockets. Exactly one of the things I was needing too. And a perfect match for the 3/8 set I got as well. These will be put to good use. Very good quality too. And I thank The Critic very much for the sockets. It is appreciated greatly.

 

[D60]

Ares bolt/stud remover and 24" Bessey F-clamp

 

[AutoMechanic]

My Snap-on driver showed up for the first time in awhile actually. Showed up right as I clocked out for lunch. Luckily he had my power blue screwdriver that I lost. And I needed my magnet replaced too. So he took care of that for me. Since the screwdriver is not in the system he told me i could have it. They don’t have this color individually but he went thru some hoops to get them to send it so I appreciate that. He told them on the phone last time he was here he didn’t care if it was sold individually or not his customer needed it and they are going to send it. So I guess that worked haha. The magnet was warranty. I break those all the time so I get them from the tool trucks. I also got a Swedish pipe wrench too cause I like them for alignments. I can probably get them cheaper from the maker but since he is good about warranty stuff I just went ahead and got this one for $85 to go along with my smaller orange one. It’s not something I use a whole lot. He has a toolbox on there he is giving away so that purchase got me two tickets towards the box.

 

[AutoMechanic]

A big surprise from the mail today. Not sure who sent me this but whoever did I thank them very much. I’m presuming it’s meant as a birthday gift. So far this is the best birthday week I’ve had in a long time lol. The big day is Sunday that’s when I turn 21. This is exactly what I wanted. The 3/8 fuel impact. I opened up the package and had the biggest smile on my face. I no longer have to use my air 3/8 that’s no good this is perfect here. So whoever sent this to me I thank you very much. I’ve wanted this for so long but just haven’t been able to get it so this really made my day and my week. This will pair perfectly with the sockets I got too.

 

[Speedbird001]

Double Metabo score this weekend. Tools only, already have batteries and charger. Metabo (Hitahchi) does not seem popular, but I am 100% satisfied with my 18v drill and driver. I have 1.5 and 2.5a batteries; either will work, I tend to keep the 1.5 on the hex impact driver and the 2.5 on the less frequently used drill. Much larger batteries are available, but I have never had a need for one. I tested both on these new tools, and worked ok for me.

- Oscillating Multitool: $89 on sale w/ military discount; cutting out and replacing a bunch of outside trim, never had one, but looks like it will help. (Little bulkier than I imagined, but has to be better than manual or drilling & chilling options). Seems to be a good small sander and I a seeing a litany of different attachments. Tool less quick attachment changes, 360 deg "Blade" rotation option, led light and battery indicator. 6 speeds + some kind of auto-setting that varies speed based on load. I'll report back

- 1/2" impact: $104 on clearance. Never had or really needed one, but price was right. Just for kicks, I spun some lugs on/off my Tacoma; a few hits and off came lugs that had not been touched in 5 months. LED light, battery indicator, 3 "Power?" settings + some kind of auto feature... after 2-3 hammer strikes on it stops. (I finished with torque wrench to 83 LBs ( I would estimate it auto stopped at ~70 LBs). Doing 5k service in a few weeks, I'll report back how it handles 24 lugs on/off.

 

[The Critic]

Sockets that were on b/o from Feb are starting to arrive. Still waiting on the 1/4” shallows.

 

[AutoMechanic]

Got this 1-1/2 inch socket at O’Reilly today when I went to get stuff for my new to me Camry. Dad bought it for me. It’s for his truck drain plug. They had the 6 point ones unlike any other parts store so we went ahead and got it. I think a 3/4 drive would suit it better because of how tight it is but I’m not going to turn down a free tool haha. They didn’t have any 3/4 drive ones.

 

[GON]

Lasko fan. $79 on clearance at Tractor supply. Not a great deal, Amazon is selling for $92. But when one needs one of these, they can be hard to find at a discount price, so decided to buy this fan and put it on the shelf.

Tsc offered a one year warranty for ten dollars. I said no, tsc then said I could get an additional ten dollars off if I took the warranty. I still said no, I simply have fatigue from all this cross selling stuff.

 

[MattPersman]

I got a dewalt DCF891. It’s the 1/2 mid torque 20 volt and a Magmat from ezred