New Maxlife AFT for 08 Versa

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Hi Guys
So the new maxlife is available at my local wally world at a great price for 5 litres - My question is would it be ok to use for a 08 Nissan Versa 4psd auto transmission?
It says Matic D,J,K on the bottle - interesting it also says recommended for Ford MS and Toyota WS - I thought these were lower visc fluids.
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Originally Posted By: nicholas
So the new maxlife is available at my local wally world at a great price for 5 litres - My question is would it be ok to use for a 08 Nissan Versa 4psd auto transmission?
It says Matic D,J,K on the bottle
Does it say 'recommended for' / 'meets or exceeds' or does it say 'certified to' the appropriate Matic standard?

Nissan can only require you to use their fluid (or deny warranty claims for not using it) so long as they provide it free of charge. Use of any ATF that is certified to the appropriate standard keeps your warranty intact.

Personally I would have no issue using Maxlife ATF (or M1, or Amsoil, or Schaeffer, or...) in it, but it's your car.
 
Since you are also from Canada, Nissan warranty is pretty useless. It is better you use Nissan Matic D, and if there is any serious warranty issue, bring it to arbitration.
 
Originally Posted By: Carzzz
Since you are also from Canada, Nissan warranty is pretty useless. It is better you use Nissan Matic D, and if there is any serious warranty issue, bring it to arbitration.


Can u elaborate on why manufacturer's warranty is useless?

I would stick with OEM fluid while in warranty. Maxlife is no cheaper than OEM fluid in this case ($4-$5 per quart)
 
Originally Posted By: scurvy
Nissan can only require you to use their fluid (or deny warranty claims for not using it) so long as they provide it free of charge. Use of any ATF that is certified to the appropriate standard keeps your warranty intact.

The problem is that all of the Asian manufacturers call for a fluid that is proprietary. Unlike GM, Ford and Chrysler who holds fluid licensing programs so that blenders can have their fluids certified, no blender can call their fluid certified for any Asian manufacturer as there is no certification program available. For a blender to say a fluid meets/exceeds specs is not the same as certification.
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic
The problem is that all of the Asian manufacturers call for a fluid that is proprietary. Unlike GM, Ford and Chrysler who holds fluid licensing programs so that blenders can have their fluids certified, no blender can call their fluid certified for any Asian manufacturer as there is no certification program available. For a blender to say a fluid meets/exceeds specs is not the same as certification.


Exactly. That's the reason for all the recommended for everything, meets nothing ATF nowadays.

Many propriety specs are actually different and not renamed from a known spec/standard. Sometimes, the propriety spec's requirement makes it physically impossible for 1 fluid to meet 2 standards. But still, some ATF manufacturers put the "recommended" label on their bottles.

The reality is that for the above example, the ATF does not meet the spec, but the ATF manufacturer thinks it is "close enough" to be used for such application, contradicting what the car manufacturer recommended.

Unfortunately, there is no way to verify the ATF manufacturer's claim, because the propriety specs are not often available - especially for the general public.

So here comes some BITOGer's opinions' on XX ATF works for me and it shifts smooth, and I have 15/30/45k miles on it! Did they do any UOA to measure wear? Did they run it long enough to know it does not shorten their transmission's life? Even if so, it's just 1 particular transmission.

I would rather trust the engineers who made my car, instead of some dude's a$$ dyno results online.
 
my parents has a 2005 nissan quest!
the transmission slips when the van is warmed up and timing chain makes some high pitch noise...
we went to several dealer, and they denied there is a issue...
Conclusion: Nissan warranty is useless! Avoid Nissan!
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Unlike GM, Ford and Chrysler who holds fluid licensing programs so that blenders can have their fluids certified, no blender can call their fluid certified for any Asian manufacturer as there is no certification program available.

Which is exactly why I made the distinction between 'meets/exceeds' & 'recommended for' versus 'certified to'. I've already been through that battle with VW spec oils.
 
I'd use the Maxlife in the Versa. Wouldn't waste my time going to the dealer overpaying for under-performing fluids whether it had a warranty or not. Preventive maintenance is more important and Maxlife is perfect for those PM intervals.
 
When I checked the dealership for Matic-D for my 04 Altima 2.5, it was $6.00/qt in 2006 so, I used Mobil 1 DexIII/Mercon, prior to M1 becomming MVF. My owners manual calls for Matic-D in the U.S. and DexIII/Mercon in Canada(I can't quite remember just how the OM mentions this).
Now in 2010 I just changed to Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle ATF. I don't notice any difference in transmission shifting/performance between the factory ATF, Mobil 1 ATF or Castrol IMV ATF. I have heard good things about Valvoline MaxLife DexIII/Merc in a variety of vehicles, import and domestic.
 
Well Update
When I did the first drain of the ATF the car had 50,000kms and boy was it ever black. I saved some and put it into a empty Gatorade bottle, holding it up to light I could not actually see through the fluid.
After 3 drain and fills with Maxlife the fluid was finally clear enough to see through, I did one more just for measure, and installed a Magnefine trans filter into the return line.
Disconnected the negative battery for a few hours, and then took er for a drive - much better shifting and hookup.
So far mileage has improved 5-6% and we can get up to speed much easier and faster. In fact for the first little while I found myself speeding by accident .
Anyway, for the money it was well worth it. Great Semi-syn fluid and great price.

Those thinking of changing their fluid should just sample from the pan and take a look and smell - that should be motivation enough. My fluid has 31,000 miles / 50,000kms and was really nasty....:)
 
Originally Posted By: Carzzz
my parents has a 2005 nissan quest!
the transmission slips when the van is warmed up and timing chain makes some high pitch noise...
we went to several dealer, and they denied there is a issue...
Conclusion: Nissan warranty is useless! Avoid Nissan!


+1. Nissan is the Chrysler of the big 3
 
I put Maxlife in my wife's 06 Pathfinder which also calls for Nissan Oem fluid. I had the whole system flush. There's been no difference with shifting compared to before the flush.
 
Did you reset the ECU ? - If not disconnect the negative battery terminal for a few hours - after I did this I noticed a change, for the better, in shifting and driving feel.
 
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