From what one of the articles reported, this isn't accurate. Tesla did offer to upgrade the Tesla Superchargers, as part of a co-station deal. NJ did not accept the offer. I suspect that is why Tesla chose to not upgrade the Superchargers on the turnpike, investing instead in charging stations off of the turnpike.
New Jersey tells Tesla: remove super chargers from NJ Turnpike
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Tesla knew what was going on from the beginning. It’s why they started building out off turnpike stations. They had no interest in bidding for the convenience centers along the turnpike.
Simple stuff really
It’s easy to sling words like corruption without proof. I’m sure it would’ve been publicized by Tesla already.
Unless I read a different article, Tesla did not want anything to do with the concession stands
New Jersey was looking for an all in one solution that was going to supply vending and food services. Tesla isn't in that business. Why would they bid that? New Jersey literally wanted a monopoly that was going to make business deals to supply businesses. If I was in that area I'd go out of my way to not use those services. This sounds like the BS Howard Johnson solution that eventually became the Illinois Oasis model. Completely corrupt nonsense.
Exactly Tesla had no interest. They knew this a while ago. They did not want to pay $126 million to operate the convenience stations along the turnpike.
I don’t think you have to go out of your way to use a Tesla supercharger. They set up stations at the exit ramps from what I understand.
Small detour sure. For some reason, people think Tesla is the end all of everything good but what if the company continues to tank?
Maybe other chargers will work better with other cars?
I don’t know I don’t really care
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The other company offered $126 million. That’s quite a big difference.
Just out today. Seems like not every car manufacturer has a picnic at Tesla charging stations.
https://insideevs.com/features/761985/tesla-superchargers-for-non-tesla-evs/
https://insideevs.com/features/761985/tesla-superchargers-for-non-tesla-evs/
You can buy business because government is lazy. This is the proof.
I can’t help but feel you are definitely very upset about this and not thinking with factual information that we do not have.
Somebody has to run the concession stands which are fantastic by the way. Package deal and the tax taxpayer gets $126 million.
I don’t know the whole story but I could say you were definitely anti-government so we’ll just agree to disagree
Even my beloved state of South Carolina is run by utter morons, so I wouldn't read too much into this beyond politics. I am surprise this thread remains open.
In the old days we called it a gas station, and they were all private, on private land the owner purchased. Shocking for some I know. /sarc
In the old days we called it a gas station, and they were all private, on private land the owner purchased. Shocking for some I know. /sarc
Yeah, it takes time to convert things over when Tesla has to make their own charging network and it takes time to upgrade as things change.
I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. Many companies have trouble making a reliable charging network. Tesla focused on making their's work with a smaller sample size and have expanded after making it reliable. It takes a while to upgrade to cover more vehicles. That's not to mention the fact that they also make cars and software. Companies that only do charging should be more successful at making reliable chargers, yet Tesla has everyone beat at up time on chargers.
With that said the Shell EV stations in my town are completely down again. The closest EV chargers of any kind are 25 miles from me. Not really a problem with my home setup, but it's worth mentioning. Sorry, but I can't bash Tesla Superchargers in this regard. Without them, we'd have an unusable charging network.
As usual, there’s always cash under the table for these business decisions.
I never liked the decision to open up the Tesla Supercharger network. Heck, I'm sure I paid for my share in the cost of the 2 cars I bought! I don't want to wait while some other make is ON MY CHARGER! The nerve!
Heck, in the last year I have been on a Supercharger 2 times. The 1st for a minute to test the new car and the 2nd to get home from a 300+ mile day, for maybe 15-20 minutes while waiting in line at Starbucks south of Oakland International Airport.
What's a poor boy to do?
Heck, in the last year I have been on a Supercharger 2 times. The 1st for a minute to test the new car and the 2nd to get home from a 300+ mile day, for maybe 15-20 minutes while waiting in line at Starbucks south of Oakland International Airport.
What's a poor boy to do?
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Most "Oasis / rest areas" are on public land, and always have been on turnpikes, and tollways. The gas station real estate went to the highest bidder.
Right.
But doesn't sound like this was chosen that way. In fact nothing in the article indicates a bid process. Did I miss something?
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Who is the government? Police? Military? Aliens? Bcs. as far as I know, governments are people we all know around us. Or just people whom you don't like?
Maybe because the whole operation was up for bid which Tesla had no interest. Now if you were the one making $126 million bid I’m just thinking off the top of my head, why would I make that bid knowing another fueling company in this case charging network is going to be competing with me on the very properties I’m making a bid on.Yes, but I don't understand the point of removing Superchargers not installed in the spot of the chargers the other company is installing. This is monopolistic BS practice. Tesla is offering a service and paying a lease. They aren't taking away from the other company. It's a problem for the company only installing 2 for every 10 Tesla chargers and charging 50% more to charge.
Maybe it sounds bitter on my part, but this is just a dirty cash grab.
I mean you can call me anti government. That's pretty accurate. It's funny when I get called a liberal by others.
Others may not know that Sunoco is the exclusive provider of gasoline on the New Jersey Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway
I understand Tesla owner is being upset however, this world is not about Tesla. in fact, who’s to say Tesla will even be a significant force in the industry anymore.
To say these charging stations will be a failure is very presumptive.
Just my opinion, I have to be honest. I don’t really care. I’m just surprised at the reaction.
Maybe speculating on something they have no knowledge of and do not, and have not read the contracts and the bidding process that was put out there a long time ago. To make all kinds of accusations of corruption and everything else is completely without merit.
https://www.njta.com/travel-resources/fuel-prices
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Yes, there was a bidding process. I believe it went back to 2022..
It was a package deal, service centers, and charging or something like that, but I have to be honest. I am not interested enough to look further into it, but it’s simple to find on the Internet.
I am 100% sure that Tesla had no interest in bidding on the package deal. Tesla already knew this and why they started building charging stations off the Turnpike exits.
That I am sure of and before I get flamed anymore in here, I am sticking up for no company!
I just don’t understand why Tesla is want the rules bent in their favor.
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