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So, as far as I understand the discussion is why Tesla didn’t get contract although Tesla wasn’t interested?
New Jersey tells Tesla: remove super chargers from NJ Turnpike
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BrendanC
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this is where stopping for 5 minutes at the closest top tier gas station is the way to go
Well, this guy claims Tesla put theres in for free, but NJTA is actually helping pay for these to the tune of $1.2M per station.
Its one post, so maybe its incorrect - but I will tell you from all my years of sleuthing data - if you can't find something so simple easily, the reason is often because someone doesn't want you to know.
Its one post, so maybe its grift - but I will tell you from all my years of sleuthing data - if you can't find something so simple easily, the reason is often because someone doesn't want you to know.
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Who knows. Open corruption is all the rage these days.
I was mostly making the distinction between tollways and other highways, where there is accessible private land. And the old days being different.
Im lost in this thread and not much more to say. Im just not into baseless mudslinging when people do so without any proof or understanding of what is taking place. Corruption? Nope. Easy to say those words but meaningless.
Tesla had a contract, contract is over, simple stuff. Tesla was not interested enough to bid on a package deal to run the charge network AND the concession stands. We all must understand what a contract is correct? Tesla signed a contract with an end date. That day has a come.
The state of NJ owes Tesla nothing and I am actually glad to see Tesla has to compete in the market place instead of being handed a monopoly on charge points. Bottom line, Tesla wasn't interested and as typical Tesla seems to do based on the stuff I am reading in here is start crying and waging a pubic war. Something they are good at and why the company is being driven into the ground lately with sales in the toilet for the last year. Im surprised so many people want to see one company in charge of EV charging across this entire nation. Tesla is NOT your friend, we need competition and we will have it.
Tesla had a contract, contract is over, simple stuff. Tesla was not interested enough to bid on a package deal to run the charge network AND the concession stands. We all must understand what a contract is correct? Tesla signed a contract with an end date. That day has a come.
The state of NJ owes Tesla nothing and I am actually glad to see Tesla has to compete in the market place instead of being handed a monopoly on charge points. Bottom line, Tesla wasn't interested and as typical Tesla seems to do based on the stuff I am reading in here is start crying and waging a pubic war. Something they are good at and why the company is being driven into the ground lately with sales in the toilet for the last year. Im surprised so many people want to see one company in charge of EV charging across this entire nation. Tesla is NOT your friend, we need competition and we will have it.
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Some will recall the mayor of Houston being in some controversy over the restaurants that wound up at IAH - many of us torqued up bcs Pappadeaux’s closed … Well, he’s dead and gone and I stayed a bit too long in the Polaris lounge only to board next the reopened seafood spot …
Next trip the crawfish etouffee awaits!
Next trip the crawfish etouffee awaits!
I thought it was pretty obvious it was these types of government contracts that are designed to line the pockets of a mediocre “private” company.
That’s quite a bit different than a government service like the police or military.
The real question is all of this is why take out existing infrastructure, especially given the state isn't paying anything for it to be there? Why not leave those in place, and add a second batch if needed.
If the answer is there is not enough space, then the reply is that New Jersey has then hit peak EV - because if there out of charger space then more EV's on the road will likely not be possible?
So clearly someone wants an exclusive contract and were able to arrange it. Exclusive is never good for the public.
If the answer is there is not enough space, then the reply is that New Jersey has then hit peak EV - because if there out of charger space then more EV's on the road will likely not be possible?
So clearly someone wants an exclusive contract and were able to arrange it. Exclusive is never good for the public.
"mediocre" ???
How about international company with 17,000 employees bent on the latest universal chargers for all vehicles.
One million cars a year use their system.
https://www.applegreenelectric.com/about-us
I dont blame for your post since you haven't lived or I assume drove on the New Jersey Turnpike with built in service centers AND some gas stations of which Sunoco has the contract.
Its a great system tied into the Garden State Parkway many states would be lucky to have such as system.
Now, look at I-26 near you, just rest stops nothing else, look at i95, nothing else.
The NJT service centers are nice and well run. Run by government contracts. Private industry always does these things best.
You can't have any willy nilly company set up shop anyplace on i26 or i95 or i77 right? Why would you think that New Jersey should allow that?
Im surprised at the defending of a corporation like Tesla in here but I think it is because of the lack of knowledge of the New Jersey Turnpike itself. Tesla is not the end all of Electric Charging. The company who signed the contract is international with 17,000 employees. Serving 1 million automobiles recharges last year with their universal chargers.
The Turnpike services the population NJ much better than anyplace else. NY State Thruway same deal.
Tesla already has set up huge off ramp facilities to charge IF and only if you want to get off the turnpike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Turnpike
When the State of New Jersey, or anyone else, for that matter, puts out a Request for Proposals, it normally states conditions that are acceptable or unacceptable. Here, one "monopoly" is being replaced by another monopoly. There is no need for any monopoly. These rest areas are sufficiently large that there is room for several vehicle charging operators, and a growing number of electric vehicles on the road means there will be a need for more recharging booths at any rest area. Why eliminate the existing ones? Visiting New Jersey, I see plenty of Tesla cars on the roads, and they could continue to use the existing infrastructure.
I smell a rat. For which New Jersey is famous.
And once again you incorrectly assume. I have actually driven the Garden State parkway I believe its called, multiple times, albeit its been probably 20 years. I have actually worked on projects in 43 states including NJ, not just passed through, and I lived for a short time in New England and would drive through for work dependent on where I was going.
I find it hard to believe that while the state of NJ is so poorly run - evidence by its poor credit rating, but that the parkway it controls is well run. Now there paying a private company to install chargers, when the previous company which happens to also be market leader did for free is also odd to me. Also the fact that the clear reasons for this choice are not publicly available - also odd.
Like I said, in a free market they both could exist, so I am not defending any company, only the free market.
I guess we will just have to disagree on this one.
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Tesla has been planing for the removal the last 3 years and built 116 stalls off the turnpike. I am glad the state isnt endorsing a car manufacturer for charge points anymore. Moving forward Tesla will not be the end of all things in electric vehicles and their share of the market keeps declining. I dont believe in favoritism that to me smells of corruption. Tesla had a contract, contract ended. No debate. The company taking over the charge points already runs the service centers which IF I am correct Tesla could have bid on but they did not. Also this company runs other service centers in the state and we agree they are nice, well this company already has their charge points at those centers.
Ive only read lightly. I guess I am just to matter of fact person. Contract ended, new company moves in. not sure of the defense of a highly politically charged company like Tesla.
I just dont see the point of them being there. More so now that the company itself has thrown itself into the political arena of this country in ways that we can not discuss here. Just read today's news on actions that can be taken against "X" as an example.
We agree that the turnpike is well run and I am willing to bet it continues to be. (not that it matters to me anymore)
Peace... enjoy the weather before the storms.
You're just being logical again.
This doesnt make sense.
How many charge points are on the interstates where you live? People drive off the interstate for fuel, electric or gas.
I am guessing it relates to limited space and existing infrastructure (power feed) to support stations.
Also it there’s a Burger King and MacDonald’s ever at same toll plaza? Not worth it for either, just one or other.
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Or perhaps the media behaving like corrupt adults by editing out the context of everything … and then digitizing the opposite when applicable …
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Yeah, you sound bitter to me but not others I am sure.Yes, but I don't understand the point of removing Superchargers not installed in the spot of the chargers the other company is installing. This is monopolistic BS practice. Tesla is offering a service and paying a lease. They aren't taking away from the other company. It's a problem for the company only installing 2 for every 10 Tesla chargers and charging 50% more to charge.
Maybe it sounds bitter on my part, but this is just a dirty cash grab.
I mean you can call me anti government. That's pretty accurate. It's funny when I get called a liberal by others.
Tesla could have bid on the service centers, they decided not too. Their contract over, sorry no disrespect but yeah, reading lots of sour grapes posts in here.
Just because the name Tesla all of a sudden a certain aspect of the population expects the WELL run NJT to make special concessions to them.
Sounds to me maybe those should have stuck to gasoline then