New HF Inverter/generator

[user52165]

Latest HF mail flyer has a new Predator inverter/generator - 2200 rated/ 2500 max watts. Item #61169 on page 16. But does not yet show on HF website, not in my local store and call to HF 800 number provided scant more information other than it is new and will be in stores later.

Any one seen one or bought it? Looks like slightly pregnant Honda 2000. HF has made great strides in some areas. I have one of their 212cc 6.5 HP predator chonda engines on lawn edger and it has been great. This new genset is 4 cycle, the small 2 cycle 800 watt non inverter have a fine reputation but not what I want.

 

[eljefino]

I suspected this would be appearing when I saw a 2-stroke inverter gen somewhere else for $200, I'd like to say northern tool.

IOW, the inverter tech has now become generic.

 

[itguy08]

I've got their previous Chicago 5500 watt unit and it's a fine unit. Starts reliably (although needs some cranking due to the auto choke), puts out decent stable power and is fine.

I'd not hesitate with their others either.

 

[Errtt]

Hummm I haven't received a mail flyer in a couple months or so.

Last year Costco was selling a 2kW CPE Inverter generator. They're almost honda red color to. I picked one up and it's been issue free. Loaned it to a friend for a couple days, then he decided he wanted one. I went back and they were all gone.
I think he may still be in for a 2kW if he hasn't got one already... might have to let him know. Thanks
Wonder what the HF dB rating will be on it.

 

[user52165]

Originally Posted By: eljefino
I suspected this would be appearing when I saw a 2-stroke inverter gen somewhere else for $200, I'd like to say northern tool.

IOW, the inverter tech has now become generic.


Here's a 2 stroke inverter:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330776840834?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Back to my original topic - any one seen the HF 2500 watt inverter in the OP?

 

[itguy08]

I seriously doubt that eBay one is an inverter. It looks like a tweak of the usual 2 stroke ones that are quite popular.

 

[user52165]

Originally Posted By: itguy08
I seriously doubt that eBay one is an inverter. It looks like a tweak of the usual 2 stroke ones that are quite popular.


Of course you could do just a little research before posting. It is a 2 stroke inverter. Same thing on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/IN1000I-2-Stroke-P...=etq+generators

I have no dog in this fight. I have no reason to buy it, just to answer a previous post inquiring about such a thing.

 

[JR]

What was the flyer price and specs like cc. hp, runtime? i was short on cash and. had to pass on a one pull an hummin dealer clean eu1000 older but had only three - 1hr runs on it for $300. Still had first oil fill in it.

Ken

i run 20hr a week liting machin shed at farm
i have a tired 1972 briggs easyspin powered genny. still has life ij it .but would to gen a invertor to just have a new toy.

 

[Cujet]

I like conventional generators, period, end of story.

Inverters add complexity and completely negate the possibility of an emergency repair without proper parts.

Conventional generators often have a few parts that can fail, sometimes brushes, often a full wave bridge rectifier and bearings. All of them can be easily fixed in an emergency.

Sorry, but the potential fuel savings don't add up, ever, over the lifespan of the unit. We've done the math. Fuel savings are only possible at low loads. During periods of moderate to full load, conventional generators are equally efficient.

 

[user52165]

Originally Posted By: Cujet
I like conventional generators, period, end of story.

Inverters add complexity and completely negate the possibility of an emergency repair without proper parts.

Conventional generators often have a few parts that can fail, sometimes brushes, often a full wave bridge rectifier and bearings. All of them can be easily fixed in an emergency.

Sorry, but the potential fuel savings don't add up, ever, over the lifespan of the unit. We've done the math. Fuel savings are only possible at low loads. During periods of moderate to full load, conventional generators are equally efficient.


Nice thread hijack. Start your own thread if you want to discuss a comparison of each type.

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted By: user52165
Originally Posted By: Cujet
I like conventional generators, period, end of story.

Inverters add complexity and completely negate the possibility of an emergency repair without proper parts.

Conventional generators often have a few parts that can fail, sometimes brushes, often a full wave bridge rectifier and bearings. All of them can be easily fixed in an emergency.

Sorry, but the potential fuel savings don't add up, ever, over the lifespan of the unit. We've done the math. Fuel savings are only possible at low loads. During periods of moderate to full load, conventional generators are equally efficient.


Nice thread hijack. Start your own thread if you want to discuss a comparison of each type.


I don't wonder about HF quality a bit. It's clearly not top tier, and the more complex HF stuff may be a risk for a number of valid reasons. Sorry for not making these thoughts clear in my previous post.

Getting repair parts for HF equipment is not an easy or rapid task. In fact, sometimes it's impossible. Hence my suggestion to avoid lower end inverter generators and to go with conventional ones instead.

 

[JR]

So does anyone bought one yet. About bought one from champion at Menard's but the oil fill is hidden behind the back side plate, no thank you.
I will be in the market for a hot box duty gen for my powerstroke block and fluid heaters. 1500watts and trickle the batteries.



Harvey

 

[JR]

So does it have a eco setting. My heaters are all thermostat controlled, so 9nce up to temp it will idle down.

Also what would be a good oil for winter usage. I see down to -35 sometimes, -25 is usual.



Harvey

 

[cronk]

Originally Posted By: JR
So does anyone bought one yet. About bought one from champion at Menard's but the oil fill is hidden behind the back side plate, no thank you.
I will be in the market for a hot box duty gen for my powerstroke block and fluid heaters. 1500watts and trickle the batteries.



Harvey


Don't be afraid of the Champion units. I have one of their conventional 3500w gensets and picked up the 2000i inverter unit this past spring. They are great little units, and Champion is getting a great record of reliability.
Many of the inverter units have the oil fill behind an access panel, not a huge deal, they have low oil shut off anyways. I've never had to add any top off oil between changes on mine.
If if bothers you, get some replacement screws that are the thumb screw type and can be removed by hand. Its only 4 screws and the panel pops off easy.

 

[JR]

Thank you Cronk, what's your hours, fuel burn, oci and oil choose?



Harvey

 

[linksep]

Originally Posted By: cronk

Don't be afraid of the Champion units. I have one of their conventional 3500w gensets and picked up the 2000i inverter unit this past spring. They are great little units, and Champion is getting a great record of reliability.


The Champion conventional units may have a good record of reliability but I have spent many hours researching inverter generators and have read too many horror stories about "Big name" inverter generators being utter garbage (i.e. requiring repairs greater than 50% of the cost of a new genny after only a short time, not being able to start loads well under the nameplate rating of the genny). I have read a ton of negative reviews on Briggs, Generac, Honeywell, Champion, and Ryobi inverter generators... The consensus seems to be Red or Blue (Honda or Yamaha) if you need an inverter genny, anything else is going to cost as much or more than Red or Blue via repairs and/or replacement due to short lifespan.

I'm cheap and always lookin' to save a buck, but there is the old (new) adage used in mattress commercials around me "I'm too broke to buy cheap" meaning I can't afford to (or am too smart to) pay 20% less and replace 70% more often; also the truly old adage "Buy once, cry once".

 

[Rand]

Sams club has a blackmax 1000w inverter unit for 299$

 

[JTK]

Originally Posted By: user52165
... Item #61169 on page 16. But does not yet show on HF website, not in my local store and call to HF 800 number provided scant more information other than it is new and will be in stores later...


I've seen this situation a few times with HFT, where the flyers mailed to the house have items you can't find online. You'd figure the interwebs would have more current data, but the old school flyers seem to have the 'latest and greatest' products and info.

Like said above, for general emergency back up power use (something you don't use often), I wouldn't buy an inverter unit just for this purpose.

 

[Rand]

HF has the inverter generator at my local store.

 

[Rand]

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