New Harley Synthetic Motor Oil

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My Dad told me that in April-May Harley will be releasing a Synthetic motor.

Does anyone know who may be making this oil for them?

He currently uses the Mobil 1 VTwin oil, but it is getting hard to find.

Thanks!
 
Thats funny I was having a conversation with my dealer friend a while back about syns in Harley's and he didn't mention anything and he is pretty up to date on this stuff. Of course that doesn't mean they aren't doing it. I wonder if maybe a local dealership was going to carry Belray or Amsoil and this was passed on and confused. I think it would be great if they started using and/or promoting a good group 4 oil. You could still use the group 2 or blend. It would certainly help ease those old "no syn oil in Hd's" rumours and I think it would be a better oil for the op temperatures. People also could possibly go to at least the OEM drain recomendation of 5K (A lot of guys I know use OEM or Kendall oil and only go 2-3 K usually 2500. Your supposed to change all three (eng,trans,primary) lubes at 5k (8000km) but most owners I know do oil at 2500 (4000km) and then all again at 5000(8000km). They explain it to me as they think they cooked the oil and don't want sludge, and I think some are right but most are probably just treating their bike to fresh oil that is not yet needed. I would like to do analysis on one of my friends bikes with OEM oil/filter at a couple K's or even up to the 5 HD recommends if they leave it in that long. I am goin to do it on my bike with AMSOIL 20W50 when I change to my second batch of AMSOIL in a few months. Would like to see a virgin analysis, maybe 2500 and then the recommended 5000 miles with one filter either OEM,K&N, or AMSOIL. If it looks really good around 5000 then maybe I will change filter top up and keep going with more analysis or if not change when recommended by lab.

Off topic, I will probably do the same with my 84 GM with rebuilt 350, and try for AMSOILS 25,000 mile or one year with their 12,500 M filters. I will probably see the year end first though.
 
He heard it from a couple of the guys at the dealers around here (Milwaukee, Wisconsin). They said it will be a branded Harley oil becuase of the bikes being prone to bearing failure.

Around here (home of Harley) a parade is not complete unless it has at least 50 Harleys in it. A few of the guys my dads ride with have oil pressure gauges and during parades their pressures drop to virtually zero. All of them use HD conventional oil. He said his bike works noticeably better with M1 Vtiwn in parades than with conventional. (It is a 2000 Fatboy so it does not have a oil pressure gauge though). Even the other guys notice.

It is funny how the dealers try to say synthetics are crap. He told them I use Redline in my Z28 and they said (not the same guys that made mention about HD synthetic oil) they have never heard of it, but all oils are the same no matter what. Dino, synthetic blends, and full synthetics are all really the same oil according to them.

If I can find him a nice deal on some Amsoil, he will probablly try that.

Has anyone ever done an analysis on HD oil? I am thinking of sending some in for one.

[ December 23, 2002, 01:48 AM: Message edited by: Intelman34 ]
 
I had read somewhere in the last year that Harley was at the point of having Mobil supply Mobil 1 for HD branded oil, but the negotiation broke down because Mobil wanted to be identified as supplier on container, and HD would not allow that.

As another little side point, when HD had their VR1000 racing program back in the mid-1990's, it was observed that they used Mobil 1 20W-50, in those engines at the racetracks.
 
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Originally posted by **** '97FLHRI:

As another little side point, when HD had their VR1000 racing program back in the mid-1990's, it was observed that they used Mobil 1 20W-50, in those engines at the racetracks.


I thought that was just to oil the chain.
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