New GM engine oil, use it or void your warranty...

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New GM engine oil, use it or void your warranty..




Mfg specific specs for oil didn't just show up @ the door.

How does this impact a failed alternator?
 
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This is much to do about nothing. What is wrong with GM requiring their customers use a better oil? It will probably reduce warranty costs for them, and for the customer it will allow them to run longer OCI, get slightly better gas mileage, and have less risk of engine failure. GM isn't the only company that does or will soon require a certain type of oil. The only issue I have is the licensing aspect of it. For example, Synpower exceeds dexos 1 but Valvoline has said they won't buy the license (as of now).

IMO it is just another thing for GM bashers to huff and puff about.
 
I agree in theory about not licensing it..

but valvoline was crying saying it would make the oil too expensive.. isnt the fee like 9cents a quart?
 
"What is wrong with GM requiring their customers use a better oil?"

The part where they charge 7 cents a quart?

Hey, is Edge a better oil? Guess not, since they haven't paid the toll.
 
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That's a pretty significant obfuscation of what the article actually says:

"Further, GM says that if a customer has an engine failure that is traced to oil or lubrication issues, and if the customer does not use dexos 1 oil in their gasoline-powered GM vehicle, that act alone could void the warranty"

I don't know of a single auto manufacturer who doesn't have similar verbiage.

This is just looking for something to be mad about, IMO...
 
Originally Posted By: JOD
That's a pretty significant obfuscation of what the article actually says:

"Further, GM says that if a customer has an engine failure that is traced to oil or lubrication issues, and if the customer does not use dexos 1 oil in their gasoline-powered GM vehicle, that act alone could void the warranty"

I don't know of a single auto manufacturer who doesn't have similar verbiage.

This is just looking for something to be mad about, IMO...

These kinds of failures rarely happen anyways
 
I heard that if they require you to use their specific brand of product such as oil that it must be provided free of charge.
 
I want to see if the What Brand of Oil Do You Use? Poll in the link will switch from Mobil to Pennzoil lol

When i voted:
23%Pennzoil
10%Quaker State
39%Mobil 1
5%Amsoil
0%Red Line
3%Royal Purple
17%Whatever Is On Sale at My Local Automotive Parts Store
Total Votes: 1,168
 
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I heard that if they require you to use their specific brand of product such as oil that it must be provided free of charge.

That is what the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act guarantees, yes. But that's not at all what they're doing.

Requiring your oil to meet a specific standard in order to maintain warranty coverage is done by just about every single manufacturer. I don't see how this is news or anything to get riled up about. If anyone, you should be angry at your favorite oil blender if they don't have a flavor that meets the spec.

Honestly, lubrication-related failures are so uncommon these days I wouldn't sweat it. Use your best judgment to pick the oil that suits your engine/wallet/driving best and change it at appropriate intervals. That's what I'm doing, using a CJ-4 oil in an application what requires VW505.01 oil.
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If you have to pay GM 7 cents and Ford 6 cents and Chrysler a nickel and a large lump sum to the API and/or additive blender, it's gonna add up.
 
I'm coming to the conclusion that GM should never have tried to "brand" motor oil. If they had kept it a series of numbers and letters...like Chysler's MS-6395 nobody would have paid it any mind. Big mistake on GM's part. They should have learned with DexCool...yeah, big public relations success with that one.


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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I heard that if they require you to use their specific brand of product such as oil that it must be provided free of charge.

That is what the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act guarantees, yes. But that's not at all what they're doing.

Requiring your oil to meet a specific standard in order to maintain warranty coverage is done by just about every single manufacturer. I don't see how this is news or anything to get riled up about. If anyone, you should be angry at your favorite oil blender if they don't have a flavor that meets the spec.

Honestly, lubrication-related failures are so uncommon these days I wouldn't sweat it. Use your best judgment to pick the oil that suits your engine/wallet/driving best and change it at appropriate intervals. That's what I'm doing, using a CJ-4 oil in an application what requires VW505.01 oil.
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These "scares" are always around and about, although this does pertain to a newer issue.
I've called several dealerships AND GM corporate and been told that not using GM's "recommended" oils will not void my warranty, as long as the oil would meet the spec. My car is not the upcoming models though, so I haven't asked about those.
But it may be important to note that some oil manufacturers warranty their oil if it were to be an oil-related issue, so no real reason to worry.
 
Originally Posted By: spasm3
i won't be buying any more gm or union built vehicles


Good luck finding a vehicle
 
Originally Posted By: GM
Further, GM says that if a customer has an engine failure that is traced to oil or lubrication issues, and if the customer does not use dexos 1 oil in their gasoline-powered GM vehicle, that act alone could void the warranty.


This doesn't mean "use it or void your warranty...". You can still use non approved, Castrol, Valvoline, Amsoil recommended oil that meets dexos. Warranty is voided if it is determined that the oil used caused the engine failure.

Originally Posted By: Castrol
When asked: If a dexos1™ license engine oil is not used in an engine that calls for dexos1™, will the warranty be voided?," Castrol says, "No." They continue by adding, "In order for the warranty to be voided, the engine manufacturer must prove that the engine oil caused the failure. If the engine oil meets / exceeds the requirements of dexos™ 1, the warranty can not be voided just because the engine oil in question is not officially licensed."
 
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