Tell me what you think of this puppy, guys.
New Fram I found..
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An even cheaper OCOD, with an added Ecore center
Proof that Made in USA can be just as bad as Made in China
Proof that Made in USA can be just as bad as Made in China
BCOD??
I guess FRAM is rebranding the e-Core as simply "CORE".
The "TLE" in the part number tells me it was made for Wally's in-house use.
The "TLE" in the part number tells me it was made for Wally's in-house use.
Originally Posted By: DB_Cooper
I don't see an ADBV?
Nor do I
Go with a purolator, or a motorcraft, I dont even look at frams anymore
I don't see an ADBV?
Nor do I
Go with a purolator, or a motorcraft, I dont even look at frams anymore
These were on the shelf? I wonder if this is what the walmart lube center uses.
These are rebranded ecores from Champ Labs. You can tell by the baseplate and the adbv/bypass combo up top.
I wouldn't use them unless you can confirm without a doubt that all pleats are tight and even. Otherwise you risk the media tearing, which happened to me.
I wouldn't use them unless you can confirm without a doubt that all pleats are tight and even. Otherwise you risk the media tearing, which happened to me.
Originally Posted By: webfors
These are rebranded ecores from Champ Labs. You can tell by the baseplate and the adbv/bypass combo up top.
I wouldn't use them unless you can confirm without a doubt that all pleats are tight and even. Otherwise you risk the media tearing, which happened to me.
Ahh the Honeywell/Champion Merger.
These are rebranded ecores from Champ Labs. You can tell by the baseplate and the adbv/bypass combo up top.
I wouldn't use them unless you can confirm without a doubt that all pleats are tight and even. Otherwise you risk the media tearing, which happened to me.
Ahh the Honeywell/Champion Merger.
Originally Posted By: DB_Cooper
I don't see an ADBV?
It actually has. Last pics shows the holes for the combo antidrainback valve/bypass valve.
I don't see an ADBV?
It actually has. Last pics shows the holes for the combo antidrainback valve/bypass valve.
Well, I suppose it was only a matter of time, now that Champ Labs and Fram are both owned by the same company. That's clearly a Champ Labs ecore with a Fram label.
I wondered when we'd start seeing designs bleeding over from one brand to another.
BTW - for those who don't know, a company called the Rank Group in New Zealand purchased both Champ Labs and Fram. But, most of you probably already knew that.
http://www.rankgroup.co.nz/
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Was it in a box or was it just on the shelf? I also wonder if perhaps someone from the tire and lube carried it over for some reason and left it.
I was just at WM a couple days ago and didn't see anything but regular Fram and Puro Classics at that store.
I wondered when we'd start seeing designs bleeding over from one brand to another.
BTW - for those who don't know, a company called the Rank Group in New Zealand purchased both Champ Labs and Fram. But, most of you probably already knew that.
http://www.rankgroup.co.nz/
To the OP-
Was it in a box or was it just on the shelf? I also wonder if perhaps someone from the tire and lube carried it over for some reason and left it.
I was just at WM a couple days ago and didn't see anything but regular Fram and Puro Classics at that store.
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The only thing I don't like is the combo valve. Nice concept but it you get an engineer aside to talk off-the-record, they will badmouth the current combo designs. What I wonder is whether it uses Fram or Champ media?
Yep, the Champ/Fram integration is full steam ahead.
Yep, the Champ/Fram integration is full steam ahead.
Yes, Matter of time before we see a Fram Ultra Guard Ultimate Mega Extended Extension Guard Filter, with a useless 1 inch nut welded to the end, LOL
I've cut open three Ecores. Two of them had a rectangular hole in the media. These were either manufacturing defects or possibly from oil pressure forcing the media through the large, rectangular holes in the center tube. Admittedly, that's a very small sample size but a 66% failure rate isn't too encouraging. I stay away from them.
Originally Posted By: MinamiKotaro
I've cut open three Ecores. Two of them had a rectangular hole in the media. These were either manufacturing defects or possibly from oil pressure forcing the media through the large, rectangular holes in the center tube. Admittedly, that's a very small sample size but a 66% failure rate isn't too encouraging. I stay away from them.
Bingo, that's the biggest risk with the ecore design. Here's my pics from a while back when I had my first experience with the ecore hole:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1807522&page=1
I've cut open three Ecores. Two of them had a rectangular hole in the media. These were either manufacturing defects or possibly from oil pressure forcing the media through the large, rectangular holes in the center tube. Admittedly, that's a very small sample size but a 66% failure rate isn't too encouraging. I stay away from them.
Bingo, that's the biggest risk with the ecore design. Here's my pics from a while back when I had my first experience with the ecore hole:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1807522&page=1
I will not use an e-core. Tried one once and I made it 6 days before I pulled it. It was leaking from the baseplate seam, gave me an absolutely horrid death rattle once at start up and upon removal I could already see the media flattening in one spot (the precursor to blow out IMO).
All that in just 200 miles of use over 6 days, no thanks!
All that in just 200 miles of use over 6 days, no thanks!
Originally Posted By: SEMI_287
BCOD??
That's the dreaded ECOD, or E-core Can Of Death-the dreaded combination of plastic center cage and "engineered media" endcaps-the filter that proves that everything made in China (Driveworks filters) aren't necessarily evil...
BCOD??
That's the dreaded ECOD, or E-core Can Of Death-the dreaded combination of plastic center cage and "engineered media" endcaps-the filter that proves that everything made in China (Driveworks filters) aren't necessarily evil...
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