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New Dodge Hornets reported as selling 33 percent below MSRP- worth consideration??
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Yep. Just like the Eclipse Cross.Dodges mistake was marketing it as a muscle car. There’s ad videos of a Hornet leading a pack of Hellcats and a Demon while making reference to “The Brotherhood”. So, it instantly and deservedly became the butt of jokes. A recent one is still trying to say it’s some kind of torque monster that will connect to your inner child.
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Stellantis is wanting to expand USA operations, but no one seems to appreciate it. I never understand the Stellantis hate. They have some great products and some are not. Just like all the others.
You have to experience Stellantis first hand to truly understand the depths of rot there is in this organization.
You have to own their product, and deal with their dealership group to truly appreciate the amount of dislike that can be created by a bad experience.
Not all dealers are bad, and not all of their service techs, and management teams are full of incompetent, lying, greedy bastards, but more than enough of them are, and when you deal with a bad group of people, and you get either poor or horrible service, it leaves a certain kind of stain on your heart.
My wife's 2008 Crossfire Roadster had over $21k worth of warranty repairs done to it in the 3 years she owned it, and there were multiple times they handed the car back to us, either still malfunctioning, or not properly reassembled.
Her 2001 PT Cruiser, on the other hand, never had a warranty repair, and the car was in fantastic shape, and drove fantastically after 15 years of ownership.
We've also owned 2 Fiats, and 2 Alfa's, and those have been great cars, but the situation can change if something goes wrong, and you get crappy tech or service managers to deal with.
You must have missed my signature. I am the very proud owner of a RAM. Best vehicle I have ever owned so far. My dealership experience has been stellar.
How are these dealer issues any different from any other brand?
I've been very pleased with my Jeep dealer (it's where I bought the 4xe as well as the 1999 Sahara I bought in 2002). I will not tolerate incompetent dealers, which is why I never considered a Bronco- even though I could get Z Plan pricing (well, there was also the fact that I inherited a 1973 Bronco from my father, which was a textbook example of a steaming pile).
Unless your Jeep dealer is run by robots and AI it is just as likely to screw up or to attempt to screw you over.
wasn't that Daimler Chrysler???...not Stellantis...perhaps I missed the connection
Yep, I have seen the hybrid models under $25k but if you look at the forums you need a lifetime warranty to own one.
All manner of constant electrical gremlins, owners driving with booster packs because the battery is always dead, many can’t even get the electric gas flap to open and can’t refill their tank.
I have tried to justify one but they are just too much of a basketcase
I had one as a rental, R/T version which is a plug in hybrid, for several days and it's not bad. Had over 18k miles on it. Drove fine, although a bit too stiff for the kind of vehicle it truly is, a commuter CUV, but Stellantis is trying to pass it off as something sporty. The inside is on the smallish side as well. It's got pretty good acceleration and is fairly quiet inside. Shifted smoothly and the transition between engine and electric mode was seamless.
The biggest issue for me were the giant paddle shifters. You have to reach over them to get to the turn signal stalk. Totally stupid.
It looks OK-ish in the picture, but that stupid paddle is in the way every single time you want to reach for the turn signal.
If these things can be had for $25k or so, it's worth a consideration IMO.
The biggest issue for me were the giant paddle shifters. You have to reach over them to get to the turn signal stalk. Totally stupid.
It looks OK-ish in the picture, but that stupid paddle is in the way every single time you want to reach for the turn signal.
If these things can be had for $25k or so, it's worth a consideration IMO.
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Those paddles are straight from the Alfa playbook.
The whole car is Alfa Romeo.
Yes, it is and I wish they had left it that way. The Hornet torpedoed any chance of Alfa making a comeback in the States. And it was a long shot without the Hornet getting into the mix.
Thank you for the brief review. How was your fuel economy? Was it comfortable?
Which is fine on an Alfa Romeo, I guess, and even that would be a stretch because it's always in the way, but people will rarely use these paddles. And on a dodge, it makes zero sense IMO. If you used it you would most likely agree. It's a horrible design.
The hornet isn't selling, so there's no cars to repair, and if a scarce one comes in it's likely to be the first time you see that particular fault. I doubt there's much technology shared with other USA stellantis products.
I dismissed the Tonale for being too expensive and too small for me, seems that's also the Hornet's issue. Got a bigger and cheaper MG, with similar power to the hybrid and it has been flawless so far.
One of the trip meters hasn't been reset for 14k miles and it showed 30.6 mpg. I used it mostly in the electric mode as I didn't have to drive far and my hotel had free charging, so i ended up using just a bit over $4 on fuel, which in California is less than a gallon.
I don't think the MPG on this thing is steller, but I cannot personally verify as I didn't put enough miles on it.
I liked the seats, but they will not fit everybody as they are bolstered quite aggressively. The material was also very good and despite being cloth seats, they felt premium. The picture doesn't really do its justice, it looks much nicer in real life.
Overall it's a comfortable and quiet ride, but it is on the stiffer side. Also it could use better tires as that was the prevailing noise in the cabin. With better tires the ride would be even quieter.
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