Has anyone tried this new product in the hot and cold. When its winter I sure would like to be warm and toasty a little faster. And the sooner the engine is running at operating temp the better for the engine and efficiency.
New Amsoil additive allows to come up to temp fast
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Originally Posted By: Warstud
Although it may heat up quicker it also lowers engine operating temperatures....so you may only get warm air out of the heater.
As the thermostat regulates coolant temp up to the point where it's fully open, which is unlikely with normal driving in winter with the heater on, the extra heat transfer ability the additive promises might help get a bit more heat out of the heater but in all likelihood you'd see/feel no difference. You'd probably get better & cheaper results blanking off part of the radiator with a piece of cardboard during really cold weather.
Although it may heat up quicker it also lowers engine operating temperatures....so you may only get warm air out of the heater.
As the thermostat regulates coolant temp up to the point where it's fully open, which is unlikely with normal driving in winter with the heater on, the extra heat transfer ability the additive promises might help get a bit more heat out of the heater but in all likelihood you'd see/feel no difference. You'd probably get better & cheaper results blanking off part of the radiator with a piece of cardboard during really cold weather.
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Maybe the OP is confusing the Amsoil stuff with D.E.I.'s "Heater Hotter" additive (orange colored fluid in a Purple Ice-shaped bottle on the shelf in Pep Boyzz), which is supposed to do exactly what he said for the Coolant Boost??
Originally Posted By: Donald
Has anyone tried this new product in the hot and cold. When its winter I sure would like to be warm and toasty a little faster. And the sooner the engine is running at operating temp the better for the engine and efficiency.
Good feedback. Thanks!!
Amsoil Coolant Boost
"significantly reduced engine warm-up times in cold weather."
Has anyone tried this new product in the hot and cold. When its winter I sure would like to be warm and toasty a little faster. And the sooner the engine is running at operating temp the better for the engine and efficiency.
Good feedback. Thanks!!
Amsoil Coolant Boost
"significantly reduced engine warm-up times in cold weather."
Amazing that it can shorten warm up and reduce temp!
Doubtfully you will find any difference because the additive info compares to plain water as the coolant.
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: Donald
Has anyone tried this new product in the hot and cold. When its winter I sure would like to be warm and toasty a little faster. And the sooner the engine is running at operating temp the better for the engine and efficiency.
Good feedback. Thanks!!
Amsoil Coolant Boost
"significantly reduced engine warm-up times in cold weather."
Yes, the non-glossy, two color, folded newsletter I just recieved from Amsoil (as an "ex"-preferred customer) does in fact state that the Coolant Booster promotes faster warm-up as one of the benefits.
Originally Posted By: Donald
Has anyone tried this new product in the hot and cold. When its winter I sure would like to be warm and toasty a little faster. And the sooner the engine is running at operating temp the better for the engine and efficiency.
Good feedback. Thanks!!
Amsoil Coolant Boost
"significantly reduced engine warm-up times in cold weather."
Yes, the non-glossy, two color, folded newsletter I just recieved from Amsoil (as an "ex"-preferred customer) does in fact state that the Coolant Booster promotes faster warm-up as one of the benefits.
First off the chart is showing water only, no one runs water in the winter time. Now if it works the same with anti-freeze and allows the engine to warm up faster that's fine, but the chart shows it lowering the water temp 20*F. While the engine might warm up faster according to the site, the water is 20* cooler on their chart which would translate to less heat coming out of the heater once the engine is warmed up. That means less effective heat and defrost in the winter which could be dangerous.
Unless I'm reading to much into it I'd rather have my coolant hotter in the winter and get more heat in the cabin. Hotter coolant could also translate to the oil being a bit hotter too, not in direct proportion but still a little hotter, which is another thing I'd want in the winter. Hotter oil gets moisture out faster, and will reduce sludge. Blocking off a small section of the radiator is cheaper and more effective in warming up an engine faster in the winter. In the winter I'm looking for all the heat I can get. JMO
IMO good fill of mfg spec'd anti freeze and distilled water is all an engine needs, then follow the mfg recommendations for replacement.
Unless I'm reading to much into it I'd rather have my coolant hotter in the winter and get more heat in the cabin. Hotter coolant could also translate to the oil being a bit hotter too, not in direct proportion but still a little hotter, which is another thing I'd want in the winter. Hotter oil gets moisture out faster, and will reduce sludge. Blocking off a small section of the radiator is cheaper and more effective in warming up an engine faster in the winter. In the winter I'm looking for all the heat I can get. JMO
IMO good fill of mfg spec'd anti freeze and distilled water is all an engine needs, then follow the mfg recommendations for replacement.
Originally Posted By: Vikas
If I am not mistaken, Redline had water wetter product and as far as I can remember, it was marketed for racing applications i.e. keeping the engine "cooler". Personally, I did use it but I do not recall it helping.
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+1 In a race application it would be fine. I wouldn't want it in my DD during the winter months.
If I am not mistaken, Redline had water wetter product and as far as I can remember, it was marketed for racing applications i.e. keeping the engine "cooler". Personally, I did use it but I do not recall it helping.
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+1 In a race application it would be fine. I wouldn't want it in my DD during the winter months.
In a thermostatically controlled engine, a surfactant like Amsoil's coolant booster should NOT change the actual operating temperature. It reduces warm-up times and helps cooling by making the water/coolant more conductive to heat (not the precise physical phenomena, but lets go with it). If it actually makes your street-driven car run cooler then that means your car's cooling system is on the bitter end of effectiveness.
Originally Posted By: JZiggy
In a thermostatically controlled engine, a surfactant like Amsoil's coolant booster should NOT change the actual operating temperature. It reduces warm-up times and helps cooling by making the water/coolant more conductive to heat (not the precise physical phenomena, but lets go with it). If it actually makes your street-driven car run cooler then that means your car's cooling system is on the bitter end of effectiveness.
I took this from their ad: I'd rather not have my coolant temps lowered during the winter. A race application is a different animal. Maybe they should re-think their advertising? Also no one runs straight water in a DD.
COOLANT MIXTURE STABILIZED COOLANT TEMPERATURE
Straight Water 221°F
Water with Coolant Boost 202°F
In a thermostatically controlled engine, a surfactant like Amsoil's coolant booster should NOT change the actual operating temperature. It reduces warm-up times and helps cooling by making the water/coolant more conductive to heat (not the precise physical phenomena, but lets go with it). If it actually makes your street-driven car run cooler then that means your car's cooling system is on the bitter end of effectiveness.
I took this from their ad: I'd rather not have my coolant temps lowered during the winter. A race application is a different animal. Maybe they should re-think their advertising? Also no one runs straight water in a DD.
COOLANT MIXTURE STABILIZED COOLANT TEMPERATURE
Straight Water 221°F
Water with Coolant Boost 202°F
I am a big user of Amsoil products, but I won't buying any of this additive. The coolant in my truck works just fine.
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I took this from their ad: I'd rather not have my coolant temps lowered during the winter. A race application is a different animal. Maybe they should re-think their advertising? Also no one runs straight water in a DD.
COOLANT MIXTURE STABILIZED COOLANT TEMPERATURE
Straight Water 221°F
Water with Coolant Boost 202°F
Don't believe everything you read.
This additive, and several others just like it, promote better heat transfer from the metal of the engine to the liquid, and from the liquid to the metal of the radiator. It cannot make the engine run at a lower temperature unless the thermostat was already wide open, as well said above. Every antifreeze already contains chemicals to do a similar job.
Save your money.
I took this from their ad: I'd rather not have my coolant temps lowered during the winter. A race application is a different animal. Maybe they should re-think their advertising? Also no one runs straight water in a DD.
COOLANT MIXTURE STABILIZED COOLANT TEMPERATURE
Straight Water 221°F
Water with Coolant Boost 202°F
Don't believe everything you read.
This additive, and several others just like it, promote better heat transfer from the metal of the engine to the liquid, and from the liquid to the metal of the radiator. It cannot make the engine run at a lower temperature unless the thermostat was already wide open, as well said above. Every antifreeze already contains chemicals to do a similar job.
Save your money.
Originally Posted By: Ken2
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I took this from their ad: I'd rather not have my coolant temps lowered during the winter. A race application is a different animal. Maybe they should re-think their advertising? Also no one runs straight water in a DD.
COOLANT MIXTURE STABILIZED COOLANT TEMPERATURE
Straight Water 221°F
Water with Coolant Boost 202°F
Don't believe everything you read.
This additive, and several others just like it, promote better heat transfer from the metal of the engine to the liquid, and from the liquid to the metal of the radiator. It cannot make the engine run at a lower temperature unless the thermostat was already wide open, as well said above. Every antifreeze already contains chemicals to do a similar job.
Save your money.
I don't believe everything I read
and take these kind of ads with a grain of salt. I'm with you and use a good coolant.
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I took this from their ad: I'd rather not have my coolant temps lowered during the winter. A race application is a different animal. Maybe they should re-think their advertising? Also no one runs straight water in a DD.
COOLANT MIXTURE STABILIZED COOLANT TEMPERATURE
Straight Water 221°F
Water with Coolant Boost 202°F
Don't believe everything you read.
This additive, and several others just like it, promote better heat transfer from the metal of the engine to the liquid, and from the liquid to the metal of the radiator. It cannot make the engine run at a lower temperature unless the thermostat was already wide open, as well said above. Every antifreeze already contains chemicals to do a similar job.
Save your money.
I don't believe everything I read
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Has anyone tried this new product in the hot and cold.
No one answered this question. Yet several were quick to tell him not to try it. I have never tried it, nor do I use Amsoil products regularly. But, I have learned not to trust those who dismiss a product merely upon a theoretical discussion. Often, theories miss something. We will not get feedback on products if users are always told not to try anything.
In theory, I could picture how an additive could be produced that could transfer heat more effectively from the engine to the coolant and then from the coolant to the heater core. The thermostat blocks circulation to the radiator, but not the heater core until the correct temperature is reached. Whether or not this product works, I would like to have actual experiences reported. This won't happen if everyone is told to "save your money".
Has anyone tried this new product in the hot and cold.
No one answered this question. Yet several were quick to tell him not to try it. I have never tried it, nor do I use Amsoil products regularly. But, I have learned not to trust those who dismiss a product merely upon a theoretical discussion. Often, theories miss something. We will not get feedback on products if users are always told not to try anything.
In theory, I could picture how an additive could be produced that could transfer heat more effectively from the engine to the coolant and then from the coolant to the heater core. The thermostat blocks circulation to the radiator, but not the heater core until the correct temperature is reached. Whether or not this product works, I would like to have actual experiences reported. This won't happen if everyone is told to "save your money".
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