Need help finding a Wix filter.

[JMK]

Might get long winded.
I need help tracking down a filter for my needs. It is a lawnmower I "repowered" with a HF Predator 26879 which is a vertical shaft v-twin of 708cc. The manual specs a stp s4967 or a frame PH4967. I have two wix 51394 and they both leak around the base gasket. I measured the stp and the wix. The OD of the stp is 2.57, the wix measuring 2.46. It not much but I created witness marks with ring gear marking grease. The wix is on the very edge of the mounting flange. I am looking for a Wix that is 3/4-16 and has a OD gasket diameter of 2.65-2.75. I've emailed wix with no joy. I've spent the day entering wix part numbers on their filter finder trying to find one with the specs I need. I'm wondering if there is an easier way to find gasket dimensions on the site.

 

[skyactiv]

Look at a Purolator L14476

 

[JMK]

I've tried a purolater and it leaks like the wix.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I need help tracking down a filter for my needs. It is a lawnmower I "repowered" with a HF Predator 26879 which is a vertical shaft v-twin of 708cc. The manual specs a stp s4967 or a frame PH4967.

If those filters are specified for that HF Predator 26879 engine, then why not use what's specified?

 

[slacktide_bitog]

You can try Wix 57356

Otherwise, just use Fram (either the 4967 or the 4386)

 

[JMK]

If those filters are specified for that HF Predator 26879 engine, then why not use what's specified?

I should run them dripping oil down the side of the crankcase? I guess people don't understand what I am looking for.
That's the reason I am looking for other filters that meet the diameter of the base gasket, to stop the leak. On the wix site the listed diameters correct and would work. In real world they are not. I am looking for a gasket in the 4697 family that is built with a larger or wider base gasket. I am asking if anyone knows of a chart/web page/etc that lists the ID and OD of base gaskets for basically any brand. HF, Loncin and wix can not provide this.

 

[fantastic]

I should run them dripping oil down the side of the crankcase? I guess people don't understand what I am looking for.
That's the reason I am looking for other filters that meet the diameter of the base gasket, to stop the leak. On the wix site the listed diameters correct and would work. In real world they are not. I am looking for a gasket in the 4697 family that is built with a larger or wider base gasket. I am asking if anyone knows of a chart/web page/etc that lists the ID and OD of base gaskets for basically any brand. HF, Loncin and wix can not provide this.

Visit whichever brand you want to runs website & enter in the Fram or STP part number. It should give you results for an equivalent filter.

 

[JMK]

Visit whichever brand you want to runs website & enter in the Fram or STP part number. It should give you results for an equivalent filter.

I am capable of cross referencing a filter. This about the base gasket diameter, no one I can find except for wix lists this dimension.

All.Filters.It.Calls.For.Leak.

 

[chemman]

Without knowing the inner diameter of the base gasket, I used an outer diameter of 2.734 inches for the gasket and the 3/4" - 16 for the thread size, I found that a Wix 57035 might fit the need.

Now as a point of clarification - you never stated that the STP and Fram filters you listed leak. You only stated that the Wix 51394 filters leaked.

I would say that if the Harbor Freight recommended oil filter(s) leak, then there could be something wrong with the engine you purchased. Did the filter that was originally installed on the engine at the factory leak? If not, then I would try and cross reference that oil filter.

 

[spasm3]

Might get long winded.
. I am looking for a Wix that is 3/4-16 and has a OD gasket diameter of 2.65-2.75. I've emailed wix with no joy. I've spent the day entering wix part numbers on their filter finder trying to find one with the specs I need. I'm wondering if there is an easier way to find gasket dimensions on the site.

A 3614 and 3600( longer) fram has a internal gasket od of 2.45 and a gasket od of 2.75. Crosses to a wix 10165 and 51085 longer ( double check the cross ref before ordering).

https://www.fram.com/fram-extra-guard-oil-filter-spin-on-ph3614fp

 

[Nukeman7]

The WIX 51056 appears to be what you are looking for. The gasket o.d. is 2.734" and i.d. is 2.430".

 

[ZeeOSix]

I should run them dripping oil down the side of the crankcase? I guess people don't understand what I am looking for.
That's the reason I am looking for other filters that meet the diameter of the base gasket, to stop the leak. On the wix site the listed diameters correct and would work. In real world they are not. I am looking for a gasket in the 4697 family that is built with a larger or wider base gasket. I am asking if anyone knows of a chart/web page/etc that lists the ID and OD of base gaskets for basically any brand. HF, Loncin and wix can not provide this.

Why would the STP S4967 or a Fram PH4967 (or any oil filter that crosses over to those filters) "drip oil down the side of the crankcase" if those filters are specified for that engine? Something doesn't add up. Are you saying the engine maker has specified the wrong oil filters?

 

[JMK]

Without knowing the inner diameter of the base gasket, I used an outer diameter of 2.734 inches for the gasket and the 3/4" - 16 for the thread size, I found that a Wix 57035 might fit the need.

Now as a point of clarification - you never stated that the STP and Fram filters you listed leak. You only stated that the Wix 51394 filters leaked.

I would say that if the Harbor Freight recommended oil filter(s) leak, then there could be something wrong with the engine you purchased. Did the filter that was originally installed on the engine at the factory leak? If not, then I would try and cross reference that oil filter.

The original filter was in Chinese and it's long gone. The flange is perfectly flat, it is that base gasket on the filter is to small. Thanks for the hint on the 57035.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

The original filter was in Chinese and it's long gone. The flange is perfectly flat, it is that base gasket on the filter is to small. Thanks for the hint on the 57035.

So your manual is incorrect. That spec is a similar filter to a Toyota 1.5 used in Pruis or Yaris in the mid 2000's (toyota pn: 90915-10003)

If the other filters do not work this Toyota pn will not work.

You didn't provide the necessary crucial info (or I missed it in all the misdirected yacking here)

What is the I.D. and O.D. of the filter mounting base (spotface) ?

- Arco

 

[drtyler]

The WIX 51056 appears to be what you are looking for. The gasket o.d. is 2.734" and i.d. is 2.430".

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Those filters are expensive, and the louvered center tube is usually pretty ugly (louvers not fully punched and center tube not fully punched with louvers).

 

[ZeeOSix]

The original filter was in Chinese and it's long gone. The flange is perfectly flat, it is that base gasket on the filter is to small. Thanks for the hint on the 57035.

In your first post you said: "The manual specs a stp s4967 or a fram PH4967."

Were those two filters specifically called out in the manual for that engine? If so, why won't they work?

 

[Bighorn2500]

Look at Donladson filters, their site allows an attribute search by gasket OD, ID, etc.
Donladson P551251 has an OD 2.74" and 3/4"-16 thread.

 

[Suzuki-2000]

Have you tried the recommended Fram PH4967 ?

 

[userfriendly]

If you don’t mind short and fat, have a look at ph16a, or the longer ph8a