Napa Nascar filter
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Originally Posted By: Dyoel182
I just have to say this thing is the best built filter for under $4 I have ever knowingly bought. Despite the spin flow nonsense its still a well made looking Wix for a great price.
So......are you buying these from Fleet Filter, or what?
The reason I ask is because about a week ago you posted that your local NAPA dealer was a PITA and that they seem to hate helping non-commercial accounts.......
BTW, welcome to the dark side!
I just have to say this thing is the best built filter for under $4 I have ever knowingly bought. Despite the spin flow nonsense its still a well made looking Wix for a great price.
So......are you buying these from Fleet Filter, or what?
The reason I ask is because about a week ago you posted that your local NAPA dealer was a PITA and that they seem to hate helping non-commercial accounts.......
BTW, welcome to the dark side!
Same number my car uses. I've been tempted to try one but I could get the Napa Gold for the same price from Fleet Filter...
The Napa Gold 1334 filter is $4.13 on Fleet Filter, I'd order more than one and maybe an air filter or two to make up for the cost of shipping. Their air filter price is great for my car, it's even cheaper than the Advance Auto sale they had last spring with all air filters 25% off, and half the price (if I remember right) of what my local Napa charges for it, plus it has to be special ordered since the air filters are tough to find for my car. Buying just one at a time probably wouldn't make sense though. If you don't care to stash and just buy your filters when you need them, the Nascar filter would probably make more sense.
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All oil filters on fleetfilter.com are NapaGolds.
Quoted right from the top of their website.
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WELCOME TO FLEETFILTER.COM! We have over 1500 filters listed with Quick Order and Search capabilities! As always, our filters are NapaGold as made by WIX in North Carolina, USA. All of our filters are in stock, and we send 95% of all orders within 24 hours.
Quoted right from the top of their website.
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WELCOME TO FLEETFILTER.COM! We have over 1500 filters listed with Quick Order and Search capabilities! As always, our filters are NapaGold as made by WIX in North Carolina, USA. All of our filters are in stock, and we send 95% of all orders within 24 hours.
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I've got a NAPA Nascar filter on my Corvette and on my wife's Honda right now. The only thing that worries me is the nitrile ADBV. I wonder if it's up to the task of an extremely cold winter or an extremely hot summer? At the same time, I won't be pushing it past 7000 miles in my car or past 5000 miles in my wife's car, so perhaps it doesn't matter if it's not got a silicone ADBV?
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
The Napa Gold 1334 filter is $4.13 on Fleet Filter, I'd order more than one and maybe an air filter or two to make up for the cost of shipping.
I thought about that but they dont carry the air filters my 2 daily drivers use and they are only $10 at the store anyway.
The Napa Gold 1334 filter is $4.13 on Fleet Filter, I'd order more than one and maybe an air filter or two to make up for the cost of shipping.
I thought about that but they dont carry the air filters my 2 daily drivers use and they are only $10 at the store anyway.
Just e-mail them, they should be able to get them for you. The filter for my car costs almost $30 at Napa so I'm glad to get them for $16 on Fleet Filter.
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Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Spending the few pennies a day more for something with a silicone ADBV fixes that problem quite easily.
I bought two more Nascar filters today, one for each of my cars. I saved $7 buying them compared to the NAPA Golds! As much as I think the silicone ADBVs are the better way to go, I just can't justify the $7 extra. Call me cheap.
Spending the few pennies a day more for something with a silicone ADBV fixes that problem quite easily.
I bought two more Nascar filters today, one for each of my cars. I saved $7 buying them compared to the NAPA Golds! As much as I think the silicone ADBVs are the better way to go, I just can't justify the $7 extra. Call me cheap.
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
So, you're NOT really all that worried about those temperature extremes, are you?
Where is the proof that he should be? My Mazda factory filter had a nitrile valve so thats what I continue to use and its the same with a lot of cars out there.
So, you're NOT really all that worried about those temperature extremes, are you?
Where is the proof that he should be? My Mazda factory filter had a nitrile valve so thats what I continue to use and its the same with a lot of cars out there.
My Honda OEM filters have a silicon ADBV. But strangely, the more expensive HAMP filters just have a nitrile..
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Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
OK... You're cheap.
So, you're NOT really all that worried about those temperature extremes, are you?
I don't really see how temperature extremes alter the equation
That is, the properties of the oil are what are going to be called to task in that situation. Now sure, a full oil filter MAY mean a quieter start ..but I don't think that it's much different than a warmer noisy start. If the flow is delayed due to pump relief activity, the thing will be spinning its tires even more with more of a static oil column to push.
Again, I like quiet starts.
Although it's had added purposes attached to it in the evolution of engine design, the ADBV's primary purpose isn't to keep the filter full indefinitely. It's to prevent rapid backflushing of the media. The spec on an ADBV is to hold for xxx amount to time. If it had any mandate to keep the oil filter full ...under OEM specifications, then there would be a very long list of prohibited filters out there. Virtually no filter manufacturer could offer a nitrile ADBV over the OEM spec'd OCI and Fram would surely be setup for endless denial of warranty claims just by doing the job that it does in its functional state.
My belief, in where someone like Ford spec's a "S" filter ..is that it is done to reduce customer complaints where engines, when starting with an empty filter, produce too much noise. I don't think that it produces any wear of merit (that would effect the engine over its life cycle). I don't "KNOW" this ..it's just my opinion.
OK... You're cheap.
So, you're NOT really all that worried about those temperature extremes, are you?
I don't really see how temperature extremes alter the equation
That is, the properties of the oil are what are going to be called to task in that situation. Now sure, a full oil filter MAY mean a quieter start ..but I don't think that it's much different than a warmer noisy start. If the flow is delayed due to pump relief activity, the thing will be spinning its tires even more with more of a static oil column to push.
Again, I like quiet starts.
Although it's had added purposes attached to it in the evolution of engine design, the ADBV's primary purpose isn't to keep the filter full indefinitely. It's to prevent rapid backflushing of the media. The spec on an ADBV is to hold for xxx amount to time. If it had any mandate to keep the oil filter full ...under OEM specifications, then there would be a very long list of prohibited filters out there. Virtually no filter manufacturer could offer a nitrile ADBV over the OEM spec'd OCI and Fram would surely be setup for endless denial of warranty claims just by doing the job that it does in its functional state.
My belief, in where someone like Ford spec's a "S" filter ..is that it is done to reduce customer complaints where engines, when starting with an empty filter, produce too much noise. I don't think that it produces any wear of merit (that would effect the engine over its life cycle). I don't "KNOW" this ..it's just my opinion.
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Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
OK... You're cheap.
So, you're NOT really all that worried about those temperature extremes, are you?
I still a bit worried that the nitrile isn't quite up to the task like silicone would be, and perhaps I am cheap, but it just seems silly to me to spend an extra $7 on filters every six months when these ones are probably going to give both of my engines the exact same lifespan either way.
OK... You're cheap.
So, you're NOT really all that worried about those temperature extremes, are you?
I still a bit worried that the nitrile isn't quite up to the task like silicone would be, and perhaps I am cheap, but it just seems silly to me to spend an extra $7 on filters every six months when these ones are probably going to give both of my engines the exact same lifespan either way.
I'm curious, has anyone compared these to the NAPA Proselect filters? I cut a Proselect open a while back (one that I dropped) and it looked similar to construction to the NAPA gold filters, just different media. Perhaps the only differnce is the plastic spin device?
I've been running Proselects on my wife's old Camry, since a $500 car isn't worth a $6 oil filter.
I've been running Proselects on my wife's old Camry, since a $500 car isn't worth a $6 oil filter.
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