Myth Busted: "Bad cat won't cause misfire"

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Originally Posted By: Oil Changer


So why ain't you at work now? Oh, I know, even in Florida it's probably a little too early and cold to be washing other people's cars. Or is it boats? Both? I'll be in the area next month, will you give me a discount? There'll be lot's of road grime from the trip down.


*yawn* Ad-hominem.

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At your young age, you couldn't have learned much yet. I was welding yesterday. Since a well-bred chimp can be taught to weld, I understand why you had to have someone else do it for you; a person you argued with.

Congratulations! You almost wrote a whole post without tripping the censor.


More Ad-hominem.
 
Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
"Bad kitty" is so technically detailed! LOL!!!


Ad-hominem, and a singular phrase completely removed from context.

What else ya got?
 
This thread has devolved into one of follow the law or else.

Let the first who breaks no laws daily throw the first stone.
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
What else ya got?


What else? I'm going to stay tuned to see if you can let others state their opinion without getting your panties all wadded up. Also, since this thread is dead and the deed done, I want to see if you can move on and display some moral courage and overcome your anger issues and the overwhelming desire to argue people's opinions, sling insults, and complete a sentence without tripping the censor. From what I've witnessed so far, you won't be able to.
 
Originally Posted By: SHOZ
This thread has devolved into one of follow the law or else.

Let the first who breaks no laws daily throw the first stone.


Not from me. I specifically noted that it is each owner's decision to modify their car.

Laws are laws, if you choose to break one I am not the police. But don't expect me to be pleased with you about you choice. I personally believe as a fleet owner I have a responsibility to keep my vehicles emissions legal and efficient.

And if everyone did this and ripped off whatever they didn't like I doubt the outcome would be as benevolent as all the deniers allege.
 
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DW,

Your anger is palpable, but imagining that you somehow score by acting out is hilarious. Also, imagining you are the smartest guy in the room is a typical manifestation of the classic troll.

Do you really think everyone on an open board should just agree with you? Surprise! As you would say, it takes a real idiot.

We do all our maintenance in house. Big deal. We have a body shop and a machine shop in our family as well. Big deal. No one here is impressed. We have disgustingly wealthy folks and really poor ones here, too.

The fact that you so desperately need approval is revealing, and then you start ranting. How does that work for you?

Keep it up, at least it's entertaining...
 
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Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
What else ya got?


What else? I'm going to stay tuned to see if you can let others state their opinion without getting your panties all wadded up. Also, since this thread is dead and the deed done, I want to see if you can move on and display some moral courage and overcome your anger issues and the overwhelming desire to argue people's opinions, sling insults, and complete a sentence without tripping the censor. From what I've witnessed so far, you won't be able to.


Again, your insults are a perfect description of yourself,,and what you have done.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
DW,

Your anger is palpable, but imagining that you somehow score by acting out is hilarious. Also, imagining you are the smartest guy in the room is a typical manifestation of the classic troll.

Do you really think everyone on an open board should just agree with you? Surprise! As you would say, it takes a real idiot.

We do all our maintenance in house. Big deal. We have a body shop and a machine shop in our family as well. Big deal. No one here is impressed. We have disgustingly wealthy folks and really poor ones here, too.

The fact that you so desperately need approval is revealing, and then you start ranting. How does that work for you?

Keep it up, at least it's entertaining...


Funny you should bring up the topic of people with an ego driven imagination. Your own post is a perfect demonstration of the very topic.
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp

OK, go back and read the thread. Once you are no longer ignorant of everything that has occurred, get back to me.

I already read the thread, and I’m not ignorant of anything that occurred.
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp


Where do you clowns keep coming from?

Here's the situation:

Companies are selling defective catalytic converters with their vehicles.

The EPA expects the consumer to pick up the tab, while failing to protect the consumer.

Some people, like myself, have decided not to be involved in this incompetence, and simply not lay out extra cash for a motor vehicle manufacturer's incompetence, nor the government's failure to protect the consumer.

Don't like it? There's nothing that you, Steve, or the other idiot can do about it, except whine and make personal attacks.

While everyone is complaining and accusing, I'll be driving, and not giving a [censored].
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My post was more geared towards people who remove perfectly functioning cats in pursuit of more power. But as for you: The automakers are not selling defective catalytic converters. Just because you had one fail doesn’t mean they’re all defective. I have three vehicles that are all over 21 years old, and they all have close to or over 200k miles. They all have their factory original cats and they’re still working perfectly fine, except for one, which I replaced 2 years ago, which was still working fine when I replaced it. The only reason why I replaced it was because the pipe it was attached to was rusted out, and the easiest way to fix it was to just bolt a new cat on. If the pipe hadn’t rusted, and if I wasn’t too lazy to try to remove the pipe from the cat, the original cat would still be there, working fine.
If your water pump failed after 100k, would you say all the automakers are making defective water pumps and complain that you have to pay for it out of pocket? You had a cat fail. It happens. It doesn’t mean they all fail or they’re all defective, and it doesn’t mean you’re entitled to a free replacement. And the proper fix is not to gut it or replace it with a straight piece of pipe, the proper fix is replacing it with another cat. If you want to be a tightwad and not fix your vehicle properly, fine. But I’ll still think you’re a (cheap), inconsiderate douche.
 
See what I mean, DW? Why do you take such issue? Why the anger? Why the need for the last word? Why aren't you at work running a business? The "your rubber and I'm glue" look in the mirror responses are hilarious. Is that all you got? If you can not let this go, at least try and develop an imagination and come up with a burn that is creative and unique. Talk about yawn.

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I've been meaning to ask, if you are so successful (or is it VERY?) in business, why are you driving an '07 Navigator? The vehicles in your signature line are garbage; except for the Charger. You probably only listed that because you seen one in a Fast and Furious movie and I doubt you even own one.
 
This is one of those threads that "needs to disappear quicker than a pack of smokes at an AA meeting".
 
Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp

OK, go back and read the thread. Once you are no longer ignorant of everything that has occurred, get back to me.

I already read the thread, and I’m not ignorant of anything that occurred.
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp


Where do you clowns keep coming from?

Here's the situation:

Companies are selling defective catalytic converters with their vehicles.

The EPA expects the consumer to pick up the tab, while failing to protect the consumer.

Some people, like myself, have decided not to be involved in this incompetence, and simply not lay out extra cash for a motor vehicle manufacturer's incompetence, nor the government's failure to protect the consumer.

Don't like it? There's nothing that you, Steve, or the other idiot can do about it, except whine and make personal attacks.

While everyone is complaining and accusing, I'll be driving, and not giving a [censored].
cool.gif


My post was more geared towards people who remove perfectly functioning cats in pursuit of more power. But as for you: The automakers are not selling defective catalytic converters. Just because you had one fail doesn’t mean they’re all defective. I have three vehicles that are all over 21 years old, and they all have close to or over 200k miles. They all have their factory original cats and they’re still working perfectly fine, except for one, which I replaced 2 years ago, which was still working fine when I replaced it. The only reason why I replaced it was because the pipe it was attached to was rusted out, and the easiest way to fix it was to just bolt a new cat on. If the pipe hadn’t rusted, and if I wasn’t too lazy to try to remove the pipe from the cat, the original cat would still be there, working fine.
If your water pump failed after 100k, would you say all the automakers are making defective water pumps and complain that you have to pay for it out of pocket? You had a cat fail. It happens. It doesn’t mean they all fail or they’re all defective, and it doesn’t mean you’re entitled to a free replacement. And the proper fix is not to gut it or replace it with a straight piece of pipe, the proper fix is replacing it with another cat. If you want to be a tightwad and not fix your vehicle properly, fine. But I’ll still think you’re a (cheap), inconsiderate douche.


Oh, so you're one of those who would buy a shoddy OEM part instead of an improved aftermarket piece. Ok, thanks. Since you're such a big spender, and I'm such a tightwad, you can pick up the bill.
 
I'm not the master of the multi-quote like you are.

Someone called you a troll, now I'm a troll. Can't you come up with anything on your own? LOL! But hey, good job! You submitted a post without tripping the censor!

Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
You just made 3 posts in reply to my one, completely loaded with troll ish insults,,and then ask me not to have the last word?
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Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp

OK, go back and read the thread. Once you are no longer ignorant of everything that has occurred, get back to me.

I already read the thread, and I’m not ignorant of anything that occurred.
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp


Where do you clowns keep coming from?

Here's the situation:

Companies are selling defective catalytic converters with their vehicles.

The EPA expects the consumer to pick up the tab, while failing to protect the consumer.

Some people, like myself, have decided not to be involved in this incompetence, and simply not lay out extra cash for a motor vehicle manufacturer's incompetence, nor the government's failure to protect the consumer.

Don't like it? There's nothing that you, Steve, or the other idiot can do about it, except whine and make personal attacks.

While everyone is complaining and accusing, I'll be driving, and not giving a [censored].
cool.gif


My post was more geared towards people who remove perfectly functioning cats in pursuit of more power. But as for you: The automakers are not selling defective catalytic converters. Just because you had one fail doesn’t mean they’re all defective. I have three vehicles that are all over 21 years old, and they all have close to or over 200k miles. They all have their factory original cats and they’re still working perfectly fine, except for one, which I replaced 2 years ago, which was still working fine when I replaced it. The only reason why I replaced it was because the pipe it was attached to was rusted out, and the easiest way to fix it was to just bolt a new cat on. If the pipe hadn’t rusted, and if I wasn’t too lazy to try to remove the pipe from the cat, the original cat would still be there, working fine.
If your water pump failed after 100k, would you say all the automakers are making defective water pumps and complain that you have to pay for it out of pocket? You had a cat fail. It happens. It doesn’t mean they all fail or they’re all defective, and it doesn’t mean you’re entitled to a free replacement. And the proper fix is not to gut it or replace it with a straight piece of pipe, the proper fix is replacing it with another cat. If you want to be a tightwad and not fix your vehicle properly, fine. But I’ll still think you’re a (cheap), inconsiderate douche.


Oh, so you're one of those who would buy a shoddy OEM part instead of an improved aftermarket piece. Ok, thanks. Since you're such a big spender, and I'm such a tightwad, you can pick up the bill.


Where did I say I bought a shoddy OEM part? And I thought you said the aftermarket cats were inferior, just "screens" that have no actual catalyst in them? Now you're saying they're superior? The cat I replaced, as well as the rusted out pipe, were both aftermarket. Yeah, I bought one of those "screens" that don't have any catalyst material in them. I'll let you know how well it works when I get an emissions test in a few months.

I think I'll pass on picking up your repair bill. That would be like hanging out with a friend with a gambling problem at a casino. I prefer to not be an enabler to tightwads.
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Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
I've been meaning to ask, if you are so successful (or is it VERY?) in business, why are you driving an '07 Navigator? The vehicles in your signature line are garbage; except for the Charger. You probably only listed that because you seen one in a Fast and Furious movie and I doubt you even own one.


Good point!
 
Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
I'm not the master of the multi-quote like you are.

Someone called you a troll, now I'm a troll. Can't you come up with anything on your own? LOL! But hey, good job! You submitted a post without tripping the censor!

Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
You just made 3 posts in reply to my one, completely loaded with troll ish insults,,and then ask me not to have the last word?
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Come now, I could never take your place. Everyone knows the Maxlife troll.
 
Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp

OK, go back and read the thread. Once you are no longer ignorant of everything that has occurred, get back to me.

I already read the thread, and I’m not ignorant of anything that occurred.
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp


Where do you clowns keep coming from?

Here's the situation:

Companies are selling defective catalytic converters with their vehicles.

The EPA expects the consumer to pick up the tab, while failing to protect the consumer.

Some people, like myself, have decided not to be involved in this incompetence, and simply not lay out extra cash for a motor vehicle manufacturer's incompetence, nor the government's failure to protect the consumer.

Don't like it? There's nothing that you, Steve, or the other idiot can do about it, except whine and make personal attacks.

While everyone is complaining and accusing, I'll be driving, and not giving a [censored].
cool.gif


My post was more geared towards people who remove perfectly functioning cats in pursuit of more power. But as for you: The automakers are not selling defective catalytic converters. Just because you had one fail doesn’t mean they’re all defective. I have three vehicles that are all over 21 years old, and they all have close to or over 200k miles. They all have their factory original cats and they’re still working perfectly fine, except for one, which I replaced 2 years ago, which was still working fine when I replaced it. The only reason why I replaced it was because the pipe it was attached to was rusted out, and the easiest way to fix it was to just bolt a new cat on. If the pipe hadn’t rusted, and if I wasn’t too lazy to try to remove the pipe from the cat, the original cat would still be there, working fine.
If your water pump failed after 100k, would you say all the automakers are making defective water pumps and complain that you have to pay for it out of pocket? You had a cat fail. It happens. It doesn’t mean they all fail or they’re all defective, and it doesn’t mean you’re entitled to a free replacement. And the proper fix is not to gut it or replace it with a straight piece of pipe, the proper fix is replacing it with another cat. If you want to be a tightwad and not fix your vehicle properly, fine. But I’ll still think you’re a (cheap), inconsiderate douche.


Oh, so you're one of those who would buy a shoddy OEM part instead of an improved aftermarket piece. Ok, thanks. Since you're such a big spender, and I'm such a tightwad, you can pick up the bill.


Where did I say I bought a shoddy OEM part? And I thought you said the aftermarket cats were inferior, just "screens" that have no actual catalyst in them? Now you're saying they're superior? The cat I replaced, as well as the rusted out pipe, were both aftermarket. Yeah, I bought one of those "screens" that don't have any catalyst material in them. I'll let you know how well it works when I get an emissions test in a few months.

I think I'll pass on picking up your repair bill. That would be like hanging out with a friend with a gambling problem at a casino. I prefer to not be an enabler to tightwads.
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No, I said that my component was shoddy and defective. You do remember that you came in here commenting on my truck?

If you're not the one who pays the bills, then what you feel about what I'm doing doesn't really matter. You're certainly entitled to your opinions of me. They're just irrelevant.
 
Hahaha!! Exactly! So why do you get your panties all wadded up? It's all irrelevant. Do you not understand what you wrote? Can't you practice what you preach? Why does it upset you so? Don't say it doesn't otherwise you wouldn't be posting in this thread anymore. But here you are.

I'd hate to be one of your customers who disagrees with you on the brand of wax you put on his car!

Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
You're certainly entitled to your opinions of me. They're just irrelevant.
 
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