My open mind wants to try Royal Purple

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Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Royal Purple = Sub Standard

It compares favourably to $2 dino oils.


Perfect example of an ignorant post,as I mentioned earlier.
Trop Artic has a price of $1.84 and is hardly a bad oil choice.

Amazing intelligence
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Most people who buy RP are looking for extra horsepower. These people drive their car harder than those who could care less about hp in their commuting. So I can see why some UOA's may not be as good.

Horsepower or horse pooey?
Get it by the litre now!

2)They advertise that their oil has a much higher film strength than other oils. If this would allow me to use a thinner oil with acceptable wear AND increase my gas mileage, that would be a good thing.

Those who either know or accept the premise as gospel say, "I"

3)If you can feel a difference in the way your motor performs at the expense of a few ppm of wear, that's probably a good thing as well. I've read several testimonies that nothing ran smoother in their motor. If I enjoy driving my car more, it's worth it.

Liquid tuneup? Handcreme prevents Johnson chafing too.
sounds like a good reason to run a discounted api sm to me


4)I think we make too much out of a few ppm of wear or a few bucks extra, if we could enjoy the ride more. Almost everyone here will not keep their car long enough for a few ppm of wear to matter.

sounds like a good reason to run a discounted api sm to me


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In conclusion, I will have an open mind and will try this oil. If I like the way my motor runs with it and achieve acceptable wear, I will probably continue to use it. But, I refuse to judge it until I have felt the experience!

sounds like a good reason to run a discounted api sm to me.
As a preacher said once, when the lights go off its all the same.
Pretty curtains are nice though
 
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Originally Posted By: Saturn_Fan
I wouldn't use it simply because there are oils that perform just as well at a lower price.


You are missing my point. When you say 'perform', you are referring to wear and length of oci. I want to try it to see how my motor performs, meaning, how my motor runs and feels with it. You can't know that unless you try it in your motor.

When I'm going down the road, I want to say to myself "Wow, this motor feels and runs great!", not "I wonder how many ppm's of wear I have accumulated now?". Wear is important, but only to a certain degree.
 
Originally Posted By: bigjeffie
As a preacher said once, when the lights go off its all the same.


Unlike yourself, I've tried different oils and women and I can assure it's not!
 
glxpassat

Going back and reading your original post, so as to refresh my memory.

I am not sure whether or not you were seeking opinions or merely making a statement. In either case, everyone is not going to agree with your conclussions. So you got some differing opinions. These opinions are no more valid/invalid than your very own opinion, they are just different views on the subject.

As I said earlier, I have no problem with the job any of the RL, RP or Amsoil lubricant perform. They are just to rich for my taste. I am a bargain basement shopper, I love a deal.

Can you go 200k using RP oil, yep I bet you can, and I bet you can go 200k using discount synthetics or conventional oils. My money is spent on oil and filters, I do not invest in UOAs or VOAs. In my opinion it is a more effective use of my money to spend that dollar on oil rather an UOA.

What's a UOA cost? $25 or $30. That is 2 1/2 or 3 oil changes at my going rate.

Motor feels great? Like I said before if I spent $40+ on an OC, I garauntee my head would be telling my butt, that my engine is running way smoother. Completely unscientific.

More HP? You are actually going to put it on a dyno? If not the responce in the previous paragraph applies. Butt dynos are completely unreliable.

As I said earlier if you want to use RP, by all means it is your dime, your car, your time. Go for it. Good Luck! Just remember not everyone shares the same opinion.
 
Twentynine, My butt dyno is all that matters to me because that's what puts a smile on my face!

I was making a statement that I thought RP was worth considering and that I would not judge it until I tried it. And that there are points that the nay sayers who've never tried may be overlooking, that's all.

All opinions are valid as long as they are backed up by facts. The bottom line is that there are mixed reviews on this oil and no one should judge it until they've tried it.

It is also obvious to me that some people here drive around lugging their motor and wouldn't be able to tell any difference in oils. My little German 2.8L 30 valve likes to rev and I can feel a difference in the oil that I use.
 
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Can anybody point to any lubrication failures that a VW (or for that matter, any other automobile) has experienced as a result of Royal Purple engine oil?

I'm not using that as a rhetorical device to prove anything about Royal Purple, just wondering. I know from reading this forum that VW engines seem to be more picky than the average car about oil. I mean, there are quite a few threads on what is, and is not, on VW's latest oil specifications list, and various problems from not using an oil that meets it.

If Royal Purple meets those specs, then I'd say go for it. It just better meet them, whether they have paid to have it certified with VW, or not.
 
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It is also obvious to me that some people here drive around lugging their motor and wouldn't be able to tell any difference in oils. My little German 2.8L 30 valve likes to rev and I can feel a difference in the oil that I use.

i have 2 v6 passats.
both are 5 spd manuals.
maybe you can give me a lesson sometime?
we can start out in one of mine, since your hot rod- fire breathin royal purple sippin glx might be too fast for me.
What is your address in fantasy land?
have you put the miserable potion in yet, or are we still prolonging the glory of inception?
 
GLX, if you are now comparing RP to D1, which carries many heavy industrial specs and has a billions-of-miles-based repuatation, you totally lost me.

I compare RP to other API-spec oils, like Supertech and Costal, since they share the same specifications. Is that not a valid basis for comparison? I think it is THE MOST valid comparison here yet.
 
Billions of miles in diesel engines, but I have no idea how many gas motors are using it. My guess would be not many since it is marketed to truckers. And if you look on the back label of RP 15w-40, they carry the same specs as D1. And like I said, it sheared to a 30 weight pretty quick in my motor, so I don't think it's as great as many here do.

And remember, factory specs just mean the oil meets a minimum performance level. There's a chance you might find an oil that EXCEEDS those specs. If you are going to compare it to $2 dollar oil, the scientific way to do that would be to run both 12k miles and do UOA's. The specs you are referring to, like SL, SM, really don't mean much.

I've read on several BMW forums where oil consumption stopped with RP where they had been running M1 and Syntec. And, they noticed a difference in the way the motor ran to boot.
 
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Originally Posted By: bigjeffie
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It is also obvious to me that some people here drive around lugging their motor and wouldn't be able to tell any difference in oils. My little German 2.8L 30 valve likes to rev and I can feel a difference in the oil that I use.

i have 2 v6 passats.
both are 5 spd manuals.
maybe you can give me a lesson sometime?
we can start out in one of mine, since your hot rod- fire breathin royal purple sippin glx might be too fast for me.
What is your address in fantasy land?
have you put the miserable potion in yet, or are we still prolonging the glory of inception?


You know, I don't have any idea if RP will make my ride more enjoyable or not, but I am willing to give it a try. I find it very curious that people will spew venom over something they don't even care about. It's like kicking the tires of a car that's not for sale, what's the point?
 
lol, there is more to oem specs than a single UOA. I can't even believe I have to say this to a veteran BitOGer.

The mpg and hp claims are just absurd and appeals to the lowest functioning consumers.

As for comparing it to $1 API oils, there is a price factor to consider.

The HD Specs are not the same-
Mobil Delvac 1 Meets or Exceeds the following industry and builder specifications:
5W-40
API CI-4 PLUS/CI-4/CH-4/CG-4/CF-4/CF/SL/SJ X
ACEA E7/E5/E4/E3 X
Caterpillar ECF-1 X
Cummins CES 20072/20071 X
Detroit Diesel Power Guard Oil Specification X
Ford WSS-M2C171-D X
Global DHD-1 X
JASO DH-1 X

Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40 has the following builder approvals:
5W-40
Cummins CES 20078/20077/20076/20075 X
Mack EO-N Premium Plus 03, EO-M Plus X
Mercedes Benz 228.5 X
Volvo VDS-3, VDS-2 X

Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40 also recommended for use in applications requiring:
5W-40
Renault RVI RXD


Royal Purple
CG-4,
CH-4,
CI-4/SL,
CI-4 PLUS
4Meets DDC Powerguard 3K214 And Cummins 20078 Requirements And Volvo VDS-3
 
But in a gas engine, none of those specs and approvals mean anything. Only the API SL matters! So in that regard, D1 compares favorably with $2 Supertech just like RP. And based on my experience, I would use the $2 oil before I would use D1 again!

And, I've looked at more than one UOA of RP...
 
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