motive breeder vs mityvac 8000
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I haven't used it yet, but the whole concept of the Motive bleeder seems easy-peezy. All you do is pressurize the master cylinder and open the bleeders one at a time to let the air out. It's definitely on my list of wanted tools.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I haven't used it yet, but the whole concept of the Motive bleeder seems easy-peezy. All you do is pressurize the master cylinder and open the bleeders one at a time to let the air out. It's definitely on my list of wanted tools.
I bought that concept some years ago. It didn't work well doing the rear brakes (both passenger and drivers) of either LS400 and E430. I sold parts of it on eBay and parts of it on Craigslist. I used Mityvac 7201 which I bought for oil change for E430. It works much better than Motive Power Bleeder.
I haven't used it yet, but the whole concept of the Motive bleeder seems easy-peezy. All you do is pressurize the master cylinder and open the bleeders one at a time to let the air out. It's definitely on my list of wanted tools.
I bought that concept some years ago. It didn't work well doing the rear brakes (both passenger and drivers) of either LS400 and E430. I sold parts of it on eBay and parts of it on Craigslist. I used Mityvac 7201 which I bought for oil change for E430. It works much better than Motive Power Bleeder.
I have both of those units. If you have a euro car with the screw on cap, the motive products one works better. Otherwise, the mityvac is better.
Both have their "apparent" limitations.
With the pressurized system, you need to have exact matching cap for your vehicle, other wise you are looking at big mess.
With vacuum approach, you get the extra bubbles escaping from the bleeder thread.
In the end, both should achieve the same results.
With the pressurized system, you need to have exact matching cap for your vehicle, other wise you are looking at big mess.
With vacuum approach, you get the extra bubbles escaping from the bleeder thread.
In the end, both should achieve the same results.
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Both have their "apparent" limitations.
With the pressurized system, you need to have exact matching cap for your vehicle, other wise you are looking at big mess.
With vacuum approach, you get the extra bubbles escaping from the bleeder thread.
In the end, both should achieve the same results.
For some reasons the Motive Power Bleeder could not force the fluid out of the rear bleeder screws, even I pressured it to more than 20-25 PSI.
The air bubbles from the bleeder thread and brake fluid are sucked into the Mityvac reservoir/container, air bubbles can't go back into brake line.
Both have their "apparent" limitations.
With the pressurized system, you need to have exact matching cap for your vehicle, other wise you are looking at big mess.
With vacuum approach, you get the extra bubbles escaping from the bleeder thread.
In the end, both should achieve the same results.
For some reasons the Motive Power Bleeder could not force the fluid out of the rear bleeder screws, even I pressured it to more than 20-25 PSI.
The air bubbles from the bleeder thread and brake fluid are sucked into the Mityvac reservoir/container, air bubbles can't go back into brake line.
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
I bought that concept some years ago. It didn't work well doing the rear brakes (both passenger and drivers) of either LS400 and E430. I sold parts of it on eBay and parts of it on Craigslist. I used Mityvac 7201 which I bought for oil change for E430. It works much better than Motive Power Bleeder.
Was there a direct fit master cylinder lid available for your application? I hear that makes a big difference.
I bought that concept some years ago. It didn't work well doing the rear brakes (both passenger and drivers) of either LS400 and E430. I sold parts of it on eBay and parts of it on Craigslist. I used Mityvac 7201 which I bought for oil change for E430. It works much better than Motive Power Bleeder.
Was there a direct fit master cylinder lid available for your application? I hear that makes a big difference.
The MityVac 7201 works better than the handheld vacuum pumps with a 1 cup container. I bought the 7201 bleeder adapter, and it has a valve which is handy but not needed.
Gravity bleeding does work.
Gravity bleeding does work.
One thing you may need to take into account are the automobiles you intend to service with a Motive brake bleeder. Motive's bleeders work great on German automobiles. However, on other cars, such as Hondas, Mazdas, etc., Motive supplies only a clamp-on/bungee-cord arrangement for the master cylinder lid rather than a screw-on cap. Suffice it to say that arrangement is less than ideal.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Was there a direct fit master cylinder lid available for your application? I hear that makes a big difference.
Yes, I had a direct fit cap for E430. It worked okay on 2 fronts but it was so slow on 2 rears, no faster than gravity bleed.
The Mityvac 7201 works well on any vehicle without bleeder adapter. I think bleeder adapter at more than $20 is a waste of $, I bought a clear hose from ACE hardware for 25 cents, it works great.
Was there a direct fit master cylinder lid available for your application? I hear that makes a big difference.
Yes, I had a direct fit cap for E430. It worked okay on 2 fronts but it was so slow on 2 rears, no faster than gravity bleed.
The Mityvac 7201 works well on any vehicle without bleeder adapter. I think bleeder adapter at more than $20 is a waste of $, I bought a clear hose from ACE hardware for 25 cents, it works great.
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Yes, I had a direct fit cap for E430. It worked okay on 2 fronts but it was so slow on 2 rears, no faster than gravity bleed.
If it worked so poorly for you, I wonder why it's so popular then. People rave about it.
Yes, I had a direct fit cap for E430. It worked okay on 2 fronts but it was so slow on 2 rears, no faster than gravity bleed.
If it worked so poorly for you, I wonder why it's so popular then. People rave about it.
Can't speak for the Mityvac, as I haven't used it. But I have the Motive, and I would highly recommend it.
I'm very pleased with the concept. The idea of pushing fluid through the system works quite well. I bought two adapters, one for each of my cars shown below. I've used it on the Alero with great success. And, I'll be using it on the Outback in a few more weeks, when the 30k service comes up.
The concept of sucking the fluid, as is done with the Mityvac, is less appealing to me. Plus, from what I have read there are many cars out there that pulling vacuum from the wheel just doesn't work.
I'm very pleased with the concept. The idea of pushing fluid through the system works quite well. I bought two adapters, one for each of my cars shown below. I've used it on the Alero with great success. And, I'll be using it on the Outback in a few more weeks, when the 30k service comes up.
The concept of sucking the fluid, as is done with the Mityvac, is less appealing to me. Plus, from what I have read there are many cars out there that pulling vacuum from the wheel just doesn't work.
I bought that concept of pushing fluid through the system several years ago, that why I got the Motive power bleeder with adapters, but it didn't work on my cars and Mityvac 7201 worked real well. I bought the Mityvac mainly to do oil change in E430, then I found that I can use it for something else.
Originally Posted By: Hounds
One thing you may need to take into account are the automobiles you intend to service with a Motive brake bleeder. Motive's bleeders work great on German automobiles. However, on other cars, such as Hondas, Mazdas, etc., Motive supplies only a clamp-on/bungee-cord arrangement for the master cylinder lid rather than a screw-on cap. Suffice it to say that arrangement is less than ideal.
I once saw an article about that problem. One guy solved it by taking a new OEM reservoir cap, drilling a hole in it, putting a fitting in that hole, and then connecting the motive bleeder to that fitting.
That would be annoying if you had to work on a variety of vehicles, but it would benefit the DIY-er who has only a few cars.
One thing you may need to take into account are the automobiles you intend to service with a Motive brake bleeder. Motive's bleeders work great on German automobiles. However, on other cars, such as Hondas, Mazdas, etc., Motive supplies only a clamp-on/bungee-cord arrangement for the master cylinder lid rather than a screw-on cap. Suffice it to say that arrangement is less than ideal.
I once saw an article about that problem. One guy solved it by taking a new OEM reservoir cap, drilling a hole in it, putting a fitting in that hole, and then connecting the motive bleeder to that fitting.
That would be annoying if you had to work on a variety of vehicles, but it would benefit the DIY-er who has only a few cars.
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