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MoS2 works !!
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so you post basically a marketing video from a producer of a product ..
I was expecting some kind of personal story.
I have no doubt the product works in a classic car engine..
but what about deposits or other issues in a modern engine.. A TGDI design that is prone to LSPI.
I was expecting some kind of personal story.
I have no doubt the product works in a classic car engine..
but what about deposits or other issues in a modern engine.. A TGDI design that is prone to LSPI.
So where's the engine that ran that duty cycle and duration WITHOUT the additive as a comparison? At least Amsoil uses some dirtbag semi-syn as a comparison in their adverts.
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And yet they do not include this product in their engine oils, instead, opting to sell, and market, it separately. Curious.
Also, despite these claimed accolades, none of the major, and even not-so-major oil blenders, like Ravenol, choose to sell this alongside their engine oil offerings.
Also, despite these claimed accolades, none of the major, and even not-so-major oil blenders, like Ravenol, choose to sell this alongside their engine oil offerings.
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What oil blender also sold Slick50 with their oils?
MoS2 does not help the oil, it literally is like what Slick50 says it was, it treats metal.
The question is, if the moly does get onto the metal, does having MoS2 in the oil hurt the oil properties in any way. That would be where my questions would be. The other major question is, how does MoS2 particles get squished into the metal parts, because that's the only way MoS2 can work. And then begs the question, if the oil itself keep metal parts apart, then when would MoS2 on-in the metal surfaces ever touch each other? Perhaps piston walls is where it works best?
Don't the "high mileage" oils today have higher amounts of moly in the them? Hmmmm, why?
MoS2 does not help the oil, it literally is like what Slick50 says it was, it treats metal.
The question is, if the moly does get onto the metal, does having MoS2 in the oil hurt the oil properties in any way. That would be where my questions would be. The other major question is, how does MoS2 particles get squished into the metal parts, because that's the only way MoS2 can work. And then begs the question, if the oil itself keep metal parts apart, then when would MoS2 on-in the metal surfaces ever touch each other? Perhaps piston walls is where it works best?
Don't the "high mileage" oils today have higher amounts of moly in the them? Hmmmm, why?
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I've always wondered about that too. Every uoa I've seen of Liqui Moly oil has no moly.
Nothing from the oil gets "into" the metal. When additive companies say that it's a huge red flag.
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Slick50 was also a gimmick, just like Lucas. If these products are so great you'd expect them to be included, yet they aren't.
Moly is a major component in many oil formulations. Other blenders, like Ravenol, use different friction modifier compounds like tungsten. There are also different types of moly with tri-nuclear being more effective and requiring a lower treatment rate to achieve the same affect.
These products, just like ZDDP, act as a surface agent, plating down on metal surfaces to modify frictional characteristics or act as an extra layer of defence in case the oil film is breached. They indeed help the oil, they are not a "metal treatment", despite the marketing, that's why these types of compounds are included in specific amounts in fully formulated engine oils.
There is a buck to be made by selling them separately, that’s why.
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There certainly is, but then that leads to the question as to why you'd buy a product from a blender who sells the "good stuff" separately, where companies like Castrol, Mobil, Ravenol...etc don't recommend you put anything in your oil?There is a buck to be made by selling them separately, that’s why.
If performance is sold separately, I'm steering clear of the brand
The other possibility is of course that if it was included, it would impact the oil's performance in one of the myriad API, ACEA or OEM testing protocols and result in a non-pass.
Never implied performance , just my opinion on why is sold separately. Follow the dough.If performance is sold separately, I'm steering clear of the brand
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Oh, I know, but the "performance" is clearly marketed as a selling point.
Products change, tricks are the same. From snake oil to Slick50, the message to the consumer has not changed a bit - “You’re too dumb to tell apart good from bad, so we have improved the good for you “
And some buy it.
Many years ago they did (IIRC their 10w40 conventional still has it for the old timers who have to have it) but oils of that time were not very good and the MoS2 did seem to quiet engines especially the old clattering diesels down a bit, how much it reduced wear if at all is anyone's guess.
As engine oils improved less and less of their oils contained it.
The original sizes were also much smaller, 50 and 100 cc/ml.
Yeah but, Slick50 showed me a video an a race car engine running with no oil in it!
How can that not work?
Trying to put the car cruising emoji in but it doesn't seem to want to work today.
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Who knows if MoS2 really does anything beneficial for a current day engine. We'll never know. There's too many variables at play.
I've got some bottles of it sitting on a shelf in my basement that I found a deal on and impulse purchased, along with some Lubeguard BioTech.
I've tried them in my 2019 Ram 1500 hemi in an attempt to ward off the potential of valvetrain issues. There's nothing high-tech in this pushrod engine that I'm concerned about, I just got nervous with the blackness of the MoS2 going in, the fact it darkens your engine oil instantly and the some of the slick black stuff left in the oil filter afterwards.
All of us at BITOG now know MoS2 can leave some black sediment in places. It's not a dirt type or gritty sediment, it's super slick and does eventually run off. At least that's what I found when I cut open my oil filter and left the parts on their side to drain.
Now if the engine is already old and worn with some varnish and build-up, would MoS2 build up onto all that and make the issue look worse than it is?
I've got some bottles of it sitting on a shelf in my basement that I found a deal on and impulse purchased, along with some Lubeguard BioTech.
I've tried them in my 2019 Ram 1500 hemi in an attempt to ward off the potential of valvetrain issues. There's nothing high-tech in this pushrod engine that I'm concerned about, I just got nervous with the blackness of the MoS2 going in, the fact it darkens your engine oil instantly and the some of the slick black stuff left in the oil filter afterwards.
All of us at BITOG now know MoS2 can leave some black sediment in places. It's not a dirt type or gritty sediment, it's super slick and does eventually run off. At least that's what I found when I cut open my oil filter and left the parts on their side to drain.
Now if the engine is already old and worn with some varnish and build-up, would MoS2 build up onto all that and make the issue look worse than it is?
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