More road rage idiots

[jeepman3071]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
If I accidentally do a bonehead maneuver in traffic I'll always give a polite apologetic wave to let them know I had my head up my you know what and that I was in the wrong.


That's the way a normal person would react...most drivers these days are not normal...around here if someone does some bonehead maneuver, it's usually done on purpose, and even if it isn't, they will give you the finger as though you did something wrong just because you were in their way...many drivers feel no remorse for their idiotic actions, in fact many of them believe they are entitled to drive like idiots...


Sadly, I feel like it is only getting worse with millennials, and I say this as a millennial.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
If I accidentally do a bonehead maneuver in traffic I'll always give a polite apologetic wave to let them know I had my head up my you know what and that I was in the wrong.

Making sure of course that you use all your fingers when waving, not just one

 

[MarcS]

Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
If I accidentally do a bonehead maneuver in traffic I'll always give a polite apologetic wave to let them know I had my head up my you know what and that I was in the wrong.


That's the way a normal person would react...most drivers these days are not normal...around here if someone does some bonehead maneuver, it's usually done on purpose, and even if it isn't, they will give you the finger as though you did something wrong just because you were in their way...many drivers feel no remorse for their idiotic actions, in fact many of them believe they are entitled to drive like idiots...


Sadly, I feel like it is only getting worse with millennials, and I say this as a millennial.


As a millennial, I am confused by this statement. One hand on the wheel, one on the cell...how am i supposed to give you the finger while i'm busy texting?

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: MarcS
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
If I accidentally do a bonehead maneuver in traffic I'll always give a polite apologetic wave to let them know I had my head up my you know what and that I was in the wrong.


That's the way a normal person would react...most drivers these days are not normal...around here if someone does some bonehead maneuver, it's usually done on purpose, and even if it isn't, they will give you the finger as though you did something wrong just because you were in their way...many drivers feel no remorse for their idiotic actions, in fact many of them believe they are entitled to drive like idiots...


Sadly, I feel like it is only getting worse with millennials, and I say this as a millennial.


As a millennial, I am confused by this statement. One hand on the wheel, one on the cell...how am i supposed to give you the finger while i'm busy texting?


Though you say this in jest, sadly, many of today's drivers probably actually feel this way and think nothing of it...

 

[MarcS]

Let me let you in on a little secret: most drivers on the road, regardless of age, really just suck at driving. I honestly can't wait for self-driving cars so we can make actual drivers licenses much harder to get. Seriously, look at the faces of other drivers. They look like cosmonaut monkeys being launched through space in a terrifying contraption they can scarcely comprehend, let alone pilot.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: MarcS
Let me let you in on a little secret: most drivers on the road, regardless of age, really just suck at driving. I honestly can't wait for self-driving cars so we can make actual drivers licenses much harder to get. Seriously, look at the faces of other drivers. They look like cosmonaut monkeys being launched through space in a terrifying contraption they can scarcely comprehend, let alone pilot.


I think a lot of drivers do suck at driving, but there is also a large number of them who PURPOSELY drive dangerously...those with 22 inch or bigger tires and wheels and loud, boomy stereos are the worst...they drive like there are no laws...

 

[DBMaster]

This month I have heard radio news about three road rage shootings. Two of them resulted in death. There have probably been more that I haven't heard about. This is just in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

 

[Win]

This happened in the next county over, about a month ago. The genesis was alleged tailgating. The end game was a lethally timed brake check.

"Witnesses stated that the motorcycle went around the truck and that it looked like the truck accelerated hard and went around the motorcycle and got in front, then, the witnesses said it looked like the motorcycle tried to go around again when the truck slammed on it's brakes."

State Police arrested Lawrence Finn, accusing him of 2nd degree murder."

Decedent got entangled in the bumper and dragged for awhile, then tossed out into the highway median. Most convictions result in the maximum penalty in that county, so thirty (30) years for a brake check.

If only one of them had disengaged, it probably all could have been avoided.

 

[turtlevette]

I think that's an overreach of police power. If you're following someone too closely you get what you get. Someone has to justify why they apply their brakes? Is there any case law on this?

 

[jeepman3071]

Originally Posted By: turtlevette
I think that's an overreach of police power. If you're following someone too closely you get what you get. Someone has to justify why they apply their brakes? Is there any case law on this?





If you intentionally cause an accident, then yes. I know insurance will deny you for anything that smells like it was intentional.

 

[Win]

Murder 2 is probably a bit of a stretch, but may not be, depending on how the facts come out.

As I said, convicts in that county typically get the max, so a plea to something lesser like negligent homicide may look pretty good when you are facing thirty.

Prosecutors do this stuff all the time. It's not ethical in my opinion, but they don't care about my opinion.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: turtlevette
I think that's an overreach of police power. If you're following someone too closely you get what you get. Someone has to justify why they apply their brakes? Is there any case law on this?





Someone has to justify using their brakes? Maybe the laws have changed in recent years, but it used to be if one driver struck the rear of a vehicle in front of them, the driver in the rear was cited for following too closely...always...is this not the case anymore?

 

[jeepman3071]

Originally Posted By: grampi

Someone has to justify using their brakes? Maybe the laws have changed in recent years, but it used to be if one driver struck the rear of a vehicle in front of them, the driver in the rear was cited for following too closely...always...is this not the case anymore?


Dash cameras and recorded witness statements have changed that, at least in the insurance industry. Any way the insurance company can prove someone else is responsible for an accident and pay out less money is what they will do.

I remember having a case where a guy in a truck pulled out of a side street right in front of a car, which rear-ended him. The guy claimed he slowed for a squirrel and the person was following too closely. The person who rear-ended him had a dash cam, and the footage showed the guy pulling out right in front of them then hitting the brakes. The guy in the truck was deemed at fault, and then the case went on to be investigated for insurance fraud.

 

[MarcS]

That sounds like the typical tactic of overcharging to get a plea. When the DA is hanging 30 years over your head, that's a pretty good way to coerce a guilty plea for a lesser charge.

 

[PeterPolyol]

It must be nice to have the sheer hubristic power to negatively change the course of a person's life based on whim, fancy and gaming the "process".....


jk I'd rather die in the street than take a cop/law job. If I can't survive without oppressing my PEERS for sport and salary, then I don't think I deserve to live.

 

[MarcS]

Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
It must be nice to have the sheer hubristic power to negatively change the course of a person's life based on whim, fancy and gaming the "process".....


jk I'd rather die in the street than take a cop/law job. If I can't survive without oppressing my PEERS for sport and salary, then I don't think I deserve to live.


well, to be fair, brake-checking that motorcycle certainly changed the course of the riders life...

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: MarcS
Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
It must be nice to have the sheer hubristic power to negatively change the course of a person's life based on whim, fancy and gaming the "process".....


jk I'd rather die in the street than take a cop/law job. If I can't survive without oppressing my PEERS for sport and salary, then I don't think I deserve to live.


well, to be fair, brake-checking that motorcycle certainly changed the course of the riders life...


What kind of an idiot brake checks a motorcyclist? Who cares if someone on a MC is tailgating? He's only putting himself at risk by doing so...

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
It must be nice to have the sheer hubristic power to negatively change the course of a person's life based on whim, fancy and gaming the "process".....


jk I'd rather die in the street than take a cop/law job. If I can't survive without oppressing my PEERS for sport and salary, then I don't think I deserve to live.


Are you a little bit anti-cop?

 

[MarcS]

Originally Posted By: grampi
What kind of an idiot brake checks a motorcyclist? Who cares if someone on a MC is tailgating? He's only putting himself at risk by doing so...


I think people would be a lot more relaxed on the highway if they just recognized that whatever is happening in their rear-view mirror is someone else's problem.

 

[02SE]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: MarcS
Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
It must be nice to have the sheer hubristic power to negatively change the course of a person's life based on whim, fancy and gaming the "process".....


jk I'd rather die in the street than take a cop/law job. If I can't survive without oppressing my PEERS for sport and salary, then I don't think I deserve to live.


well, to be fair, brake-checking that motorcycle certainly changed the course of the riders life...


What kind of an idiot brake checks a motorcyclist? Who cares if someone on a MC is tailgating? He's only putting himself at risk by doing so...


Hopefully any Motorcyclist understands that tailgating is a losing proposition for them.