That biker is a lowlife with warrents outstanding I bet.
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Originally Posted By: Rand
whats next the guy on the motorcycle pulling out a gun.. There are plenty of bad drivers out there. Doesnt deserve some guy on a motorcycle road raging him/her on both sides of the car.
Huh?? Where did you dream this up?
The guy on the MC was an idior..but the other guy (after he cut him off) tried to kill him. He deserves most of the blame. He is the one that let his rage cause the accident by tryingj to actially kill the cyclist. . Hope he gets sued within an inch of his life...which he probably will.
whats next the guy on the motorcycle pulling out a gun.. There are plenty of bad drivers out there. Doesnt deserve some guy on a motorcycle road raging him/her on both sides of the car.
Huh?? Where did you dream this up?
The guy on the MC was an idior..but the other guy (after he cut him off) tried to kill him. He deserves most of the blame. He is the one that let his rage cause the accident by tryingj to actially kill the cyclist. . Hope he gets sued within an inch of his life...which he probably will.
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Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Everybody thinks they're a tough guy. That's the problem.
Exactly and they're generally quite the opposite. Leaving it at that.
Everybody thinks they're a tough guy. That's the problem.
Exactly and they're generally quite the opposite. Leaving it at that.
From the story this apparently started with the driver cutting off the Motorcyclist. This understandably angered the Motorcyclist, and an argument ensued. Then the video starts, and we see the angered Motorcyclist kick the car. In retaliation, the car driver tries to KILL the Motorcyclist, but in the process loses control of their car, causing a multi-vehicle crash.
So it started with the homicidal car driver.
The best thing the Motorcyclist could have done, considering his slow Harley, is slowed way down and let the incompetent and homicidal car driver go on his way. Sometimes, having your life threatened can make people do things they normally wouldn't, like kick the car of a driver who clearly doesn't care about your welfare. Engaging a bad driver, is always a [censored], and a bad idea.
As a Motorcyclist, I've had people cut me off too many times to count over the years. Usually it's accidental. But there have been a few times where it clearly wasn't. In those instances, I've used the power and manuverability of my bikes, to get away from said lunatic. So far, it has worked in my favor. I got away, and the lunatic probably went home and beat their wife, kids and pets.
So it started with the homicidal car driver.
The best thing the Motorcyclist could have done, considering his slow Harley, is slowed way down and let the incompetent and homicidal car driver go on his way. Sometimes, having your life threatened can make people do things they normally wouldn't, like kick the car of a driver who clearly doesn't care about your welfare. Engaging a bad driver, is always a [censored], and a bad idea.
As a Motorcyclist, I've had people cut me off too many times to count over the years. Usually it's accidental. But there have been a few times where it clearly wasn't. In those instances, I've used the power and manuverability of my bikes, to get away from said lunatic. So far, it has worked in my favor. I got away, and the lunatic probably went home and beat their wife, kids and pets.
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
Both of them are idiots for escalating the situation. If the other drivers involved have injuries, both should be responsible.
THIS
Both of them are idiots for escalating the situation. If the other drivers involved have injuries, both should be responsible.
THIS
First thing's first: I propose that California should take immediate steps to either
a) officially rename all its freeways to reflect the popular vernacular, i.e. remove the "I-" designation and replace it with the word "The" on all roadway signs,
_OR_
b) provide some sort of incentive to its populace to get them to start referring to their freeways by their official names, e.g. I-45 is pronounced "eye 405" instead of "thu 405".
In other words, everyone should be on the same page when it comes to talking about their freeways, but more importantly, that page should be correct.
It is my firm belief that many people are secretly annoyed by this inconsistency; annoyed to the point of madness actually, and it is this simmering pot of emotions that is ready to explode at the slightest provocation, perceived or otherwise, and ends up leading to examples of extreme arse-hattery such as was displayed in that video.
We will only be able to start resolving our problems with each other once we start following the rules we ourselves put in place for our own benefit.
Is anyone with me on this?
Or am I just becoming delusional from conference call fatigue and speaking gibberish?
a) officially rename all its freeways to reflect the popular vernacular, i.e. remove the "I-" designation and replace it with the word "The" on all roadway signs,
_OR_
b) provide some sort of incentive to its populace to get them to start referring to their freeways by their official names, e.g. I-45 is pronounced "eye 405" instead of "thu 405".
In other words, everyone should be on the same page when it comes to talking about their freeways, but more importantly, that page should be correct.
It is my firm belief that many people are secretly annoyed by this inconsistency; annoyed to the point of madness actually, and it is this simmering pot of emotions that is ready to explode at the slightest provocation, perceived or otherwise, and ends up leading to examples of extreme arse-hattery such as was displayed in that video.
We will only be able to start resolving our problems with each other once we start following the rules we ourselves put in place for our own benefit.
Is anyone with me on this?
Or am I just becoming delusional from conference call fatigue and speaking gibberish?
Sentra guy got what he deserved. Because of his decision, he's dealing with a lot more damage than a scuffed/dented quarterpanel. And he thinks he can pull moves like that, yet clearly can't control his vehicle afterwards? Good job, guy.
Originally Posted By: 9050lx
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
That biker is a lowlife with warrents outstanding I bet.
Well he is wanted now.Like said earlier, everybody is a tough guy.Sometimes I wonder why God doesn't issue a recall...
Looks like a member of the Hells Angels or similar biker gang. The only thing missing were the patches on the back of the coat which they don't wear all the time. Same type of bike, same physical description - big burly, same attitude with the door kick. So 3 signs right there, if it walks like a duck then it's a duck.
I've had them come into an establishment a few times while I was in there. They had rented the place out so the whole group of them were arriving. I finished my beer, ordered another one then left after that. No problems. Mind your manners and don't stay too late go a long way.
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
That biker is a lowlife with warrents outstanding I bet.
Well he is wanted now.Like said earlier, everybody is a tough guy.Sometimes I wonder why God doesn't issue a recall...
Looks like a member of the Hells Angels or similar biker gang. The only thing missing were the patches on the back of the coat which they don't wear all the time. Same type of bike, same physical description - big burly, same attitude with the door kick. So 3 signs right there, if it walks like a duck then it's a duck.
I've had them come into an establishment a few times while I was in there. They had rented the place out so the whole group of them were arriving. I finished my beer, ordered another one then left after that. No problems. Mind your manners and don't stay too late go a long way.
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Originally Posted By: The_Nuke
First thing's first: I propose that California should take immediate steps to either
a) officially rename all its freeways to reflect the popular vernacular, i.e. remove the "I-" designation and replace it with the word "The" on all roadway signs,
_OR_
b) provide some sort of incentive to its populace to get them to start referring to their freeways by their official names, e.g. I-45 is pronounced "eye 405" instead of "thu 405".
In other words, everyone should be on the same page when it comes to talking about their freeways, but more importantly, that page should be correct.
It is my firm belief that many people are secretly annoyed by this inconsistency; annoyed to the point of madness actually, and it is this simmering pot of emotions that is ready to explode at the slightest provocation, perceived or otherwise, and ends up leading to examples of extreme arse-hattery such as was displayed in that video.
We will only be able to start resolving our problems with each other once we start following the rules we ourselves put in place for our own benefit.
Is anyone with me on this?
Or am I just becoming delusional from conference call fatigue and speaking gibberish?
You're saying people engage in road rage because they call the freeway "The 5" instead of I-5 or Interstate 5? Interesting. You'll have to get Arizona to buy into your proposal because they do it here too. In Pennsylvania the habit is to just call it the number, "You take 80 to exit 214.." , is this as annoying as adding "The"?
Sure glad to know you pronounce names correctly in Texas and have no road rage problems.
First thing's first: I propose that California should take immediate steps to either
a) officially rename all its freeways to reflect the popular vernacular, i.e. remove the "I-" designation and replace it with the word "The" on all roadway signs,
_OR_
b) provide some sort of incentive to its populace to get them to start referring to their freeways by their official names, e.g. I-45 is pronounced "eye 405" instead of "thu 405".
In other words, everyone should be on the same page when it comes to talking about their freeways, but more importantly, that page should be correct.
It is my firm belief that many people are secretly annoyed by this inconsistency; annoyed to the point of madness actually, and it is this simmering pot of emotions that is ready to explode at the slightest provocation, perceived or otherwise, and ends up leading to examples of extreme arse-hattery such as was displayed in that video.
We will only be able to start resolving our problems with each other once we start following the rules we ourselves put in place for our own benefit.
Is anyone with me on this?
Or am I just becoming delusional from conference call fatigue and speaking gibberish?
You're saying people engage in road rage because they call the freeway "The 5" instead of I-5 or Interstate 5? Interesting. You'll have to get Arizona to buy into your proposal because they do it here too. In Pennsylvania the habit is to just call it the number, "You take 80 to exit 214.." , is this as annoying as adding "The"?
Sure glad to know you pronounce names correctly in Texas and have no road rage problems.
Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: The_Nuke
First thing's first: I propose that California should take immediate steps to either
a) officially rename all its freeways to reflect the popular vernacular, i.e. remove the "I-" designation and replace it with the word "The" on all roadway signs,
_OR_
b) provide some sort of incentive to its populace to get them to start referring to their freeways by their official names, e.g. I-45 is pronounced "eye 405" instead of "thu 405".
In other words, everyone should be on the same page when it comes to talking about their freeways, but more importantly, that page should be correct.
It is my firm belief that many people are secretly annoyed by this inconsistency; annoyed to the point of madness actually, and it is this simmering pot of emotions that is ready to explode at the slightest provocation, perceived or otherwise, and ends up leading to examples of extreme arse-hattery such as was displayed in that video.
We will only be able to start resolving our problems with each other once we start following the rules we ourselves put in place for our own benefit.
Is anyone with me on this?
Or am I just becoming delusional from conference call fatigue and speaking gibberish?
You're saying people engage in road rage because they call the freeway "The 5" instead of I-5 or Interstate 5? Interesting. You'll have to get Arizona to buy into your proposal because they do it here too. In Pennsylvania the habit is to just call it the number, "You take 80 to exit 214.." , is this as annoying as adding "The"?
Sure glad to know you do it right in Texas and have no road rage problems.
I don't know why people do it. Impulse control problems, issues with rage, extreme narcissism, apathy, and any number of mental defects are all reasons most likely.
I know that I do not engage in road-rage, and I have never even come close to doing it.
I also know that the habit of calling freeways "the xxx" drives me insane. The more I hear it, the more my eye begins to twitch and I start to smell burning hair. I suppose it's not out of the question that if I had a CD playing on a loop in my car of people giving directions using that sort of slang, that I _might_ eventually black out and wake up in the hospital to find I had engaged in road-rage and caused much death and destruction.
I sure hope I never have an opportunity to put that hypothesis to the test, but if I do, and I fail, I will at least know _why_ I crossed over to the dark side.
Originally Posted By: The_Nuke
First thing's first: I propose that California should take immediate steps to either
a) officially rename all its freeways to reflect the popular vernacular, i.e. remove the "I-" designation and replace it with the word "The" on all roadway signs,
_OR_
b) provide some sort of incentive to its populace to get them to start referring to their freeways by their official names, e.g. I-45 is pronounced "eye 405" instead of "thu 405".
In other words, everyone should be on the same page when it comes to talking about their freeways, but more importantly, that page should be correct.
It is my firm belief that many people are secretly annoyed by this inconsistency; annoyed to the point of madness actually, and it is this simmering pot of emotions that is ready to explode at the slightest provocation, perceived or otherwise, and ends up leading to examples of extreme arse-hattery such as was displayed in that video.
We will only be able to start resolving our problems with each other once we start following the rules we ourselves put in place for our own benefit.
Is anyone with me on this?
Or am I just becoming delusional from conference call fatigue and speaking gibberish?
You're saying people engage in road rage because they call the freeway "The 5" instead of I-5 or Interstate 5? Interesting. You'll have to get Arizona to buy into your proposal because they do it here too. In Pennsylvania the habit is to just call it the number, "You take 80 to exit 214.." , is this as annoying as adding "The"?
Sure glad to know you do it right in Texas and have no road rage problems.
I don't know why people do it. Impulse control problems, issues with rage, extreme narcissism, apathy, and any number of mental defects are all reasons most likely.
I know that I do not engage in road-rage, and I have never even come close to doing it.
I also know that the habit of calling freeways "the xxx" drives me insane. The more I hear it, the more my eye begins to twitch and I start to smell burning hair. I suppose it's not out of the question that if I had a CD playing on a loop in my car of people giving directions using that sort of slang, that I _might_ eventually black out and wake up in the hospital to find I had engaged in road-rage and caused much death and destruction.
I sure hope I never have an opportunity to put that hypothesis to the test, but if I do, and I fail, I will at least know _why_ I crossed over to the dark side.
Question for all. Would you try to kill somebody if they kicked your car while it was parked someplace? If the answer is yes, then you're just as crazy as the guy that tried to kill the motorcyclist on the road.
Problem here is that people in cars get nuts with motorcyclists and think they can "get the upper hand" by using their car as a weapon. If the guy in the car had killed the motorcyclist, he would be charged with murder because someone kicking your car is no justification for murder.
If the guy in the car had gotten killed after he made the attempted murder move and crashed, then that one is on him. Should the guy on the motorcycle have kicked at the car ... no, but the move of the car trying to kill the motorcyclist went way overboard.
Problem here is that people in cars get nuts with motorcyclists and think they can "get the upper hand" by using their car as a weapon. If the guy in the car had killed the motorcyclist, he would be charged with murder because someone kicking your car is no justification for murder.
If the guy in the car had gotten killed after he made the attempted murder move and crashed, then that one is on him. Should the guy on the motorcycle have kicked at the car ... no, but the move of the car trying to kill the motorcyclist went way overboard.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Problem here is that people in cars get nuts with motorcyclists and think they can "get the upper hand" by using their car as a weapon. If the guy in the car had killed the motorcyclist, he would be charged with murder because someone kicking your car is no justification for murder.
I hate to say anything positive about the motorcyclist but he did a good job of avoiding contact with the car. Not only when the car swerved but also after it collided with the cement divider.
Problem here is that people in cars get nuts with motorcyclists and think they can "get the upper hand" by using their car as a weapon. If the guy in the car had killed the motorcyclist, he would be charged with murder because someone kicking your car is no justification for murder.
I hate to say anything positive about the motorcyclist but he did a good job of avoiding contact with the car. Not only when the car swerved but also after it collided with the cement divider.
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
What is this bike like the Terminator or what?
Seriously he just wrecked two cars and drove away on a motorcycle. That shouldn't happen. He would have kicked my truck and we would have taken a casual ride down the gaurd rail with him between me and it. What a bunch of idiots.
That's what happened. The car steered hard left to run over the motorcyclist, but messed up the maneuver such that the motor cyclist got around him. It was close though. That motorcycle came within inches and micro-seconds of being crushed. The car caused the accident and pile up. All the motorcycle did was kick a door, though with the damage to that car, that's irrelevant now, probably not even visible. Not much chance you're gonna make a 3,000 lb car change course with your 10 lb. biker foot and boot...lol.
M1V1 = M2V2 still works today.
What is this bike like the Terminator or what?
Seriously he just wrecked two cars and drove away on a motorcycle. That shouldn't happen. He would have kicked my truck and we would have taken a casual ride down the gaurd rail with him between me and it. What a bunch of idiots.
That's what happened. The car steered hard left to run over the motorcyclist, but messed up the maneuver such that the motor cyclist got around him. It was close though. That motorcycle came within inches and micro-seconds of being crushed. The car caused the accident and pile up. All the motorcycle did was kick a door, though with the damage to that car, that's irrelevant now, probably not even visible. Not much chance you're gonna make a 3,000 lb car change course with your 10 lb. biker foot and boot...lol.
M1V1 = M2V2 still works today.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
You try to kill me with your car in the Interstate you are going down - that includes you pulling HARD brake checks on the highway.
I'm on the bikers side here. The guy tried to kamikaze the biker and lost control.
All His fault.
If you are in So.NH, don't mess with a Silver Rogue with Heritage plates.
Plenty of bad people around, a few less, No Hay Problema
Agree
You try to kill me with your car in the Interstate you are going down - that includes you pulling HARD brake checks on the highway.
I'm on the bikers side here. The guy tried to kamikaze the biker and lost control.
All His fault.
If you are in So.NH, don't mess with a Silver Rogue with Heritage plates.
Plenty of bad people around, a few less, No Hay Problema
Agree
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Problem here is that people in cars get nuts with motorcyclists and think they can "get the upper hand" by using their car as a weapon. If the guy in the car had killed the motorcyclist, he would be charged with murder because someone kicking your car is no justification for murder.
I hate to say anything positive about the motorcyclist but he did a good job of avoiding contact with the car. Not only when the car swerved but also after it collided with the cement divider.
Yes, it's as if he has done this before. What ever happened to the good ol' days when MC riders carried a Crescent wrench in their pocket for those special occasions?
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Problem here is that people in cars get nuts with motorcyclists and think they can "get the upper hand" by using their car as a weapon. If the guy in the car had killed the motorcyclist, he would be charged with murder because someone kicking your car is no justification for murder.
I hate to say anything positive about the motorcyclist but he did a good job of avoiding contact with the car. Not only when the car swerved but also after it collided with the cement divider.
Yes, it's as if he has done this before. What ever happened to the good ol' days when MC riders carried a Crescent wrench in their pocket for those special occasions?
Yes indeed, good question there funflyer. He probably had a few weapons on him but the boot was easiest to use.
No way that's a hit and run. More like, a kick and run. The cyclist failed to hit anyone with their vehicle. Quick an amazing job of avoiding all that flying debris. Wouldn't be surprised if those 2 were road raging long before they were filmed on video.
I'd like to see when they first encountered each other. That's a cruiser bike, those guys are usually pretty cool. The driver of the car and the biker are morons. What were they thinking. Now those wheelie riding crotch rockets here in Waco..i don't cut those guys ANY slack. I had one talegate me in my truck, I straddled a truck tire that was in the road...because I could. He hit is doing 70mph. Over the handle bars he went and broke a few things. Stuff happens.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Drive fast, efficient and drive smart and keep you head out of your ____ .
Dum populace cant even step on the gas to merge on a freeway around here. Trying to get on I-93S at 45 mph in a 80MPH lane.
I-93S has a speed limit of 65*, not 80? And 45 is the legal minimum. Doesn't sound like a "dum" (dumb? you tell me) populace. It sounds like people functioning within the legal limits of the speed.
Maybe those "dum" people doing 80 in a 65 need to remove their heads from their sigmoid colon.
*as of 2012. In 2013 there was a debated increase to 70, but I couldn't find any info that it was passed.
Drive fast, efficient and drive smart and keep you head out of your ____ .
Dum populace cant even step on the gas to merge on a freeway around here. Trying to get on I-93S at 45 mph in a 80MPH lane.
I-93S has a speed limit of 65*, not 80? And 45 is the legal minimum. Doesn't sound like a "dum" (dumb? you tell me) populace. It sounds like people functioning within the legal limits of the speed.
Maybe those "dum" people doing 80 in a 65 need to remove their heads from their sigmoid colon.
*as of 2012. In 2013 there was a debated increase to 70, but I couldn't find any info that it was passed.
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