More on hurricane Helene
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Not politics at all. Just responding to your declaration that everything is above board with the way FEMA works.
Ask the officials of the affected states about FEMA.
Where is the best place to go?
Good for you. Godspeed
I think Arch Stanton may be referring to this type stuff.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13933111/fema-hurricane-milton-lgbtq-victims-florida.html
Many small towns are the ones with the most need of essentials but they’re the ones that are harder to access. Many exits on I40 were still closed yesterday. The exit for the hard hit town of Swannanoa, N.C. was still closed yesterday with Sheriff’s deputies stationed at the bottom of the exit ramps allowing only local residents in. The main exit for the Biltmore house and Biltmore Village in Asheville were open but I’m not sure it would be wise to venture there as that area seems to be the epicenter of all the destruction in Buncombe County and one might just be in the way of all the recovery and repair crews. Coming from the South on I26 is more than likely the same conditions as I40 is currently experiencing. As a side note, approaching Asheville on I40 West we passed a caravan of 6 bucket trucks pulling those huge tree grinders with N.Y. State license plates!
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I don't know why people are surprised at how ineffective FEMA is after Helene. Just look at the work they did during Katrina. Let's assume they got reformed after 2006... Look at the work they did in Maui, or East Palestine. Heck, Flint still doesn't have clean water.
Third world countries do a better job at disaster mitigation.
Third world countries do a better job at disaster mitigation.
My wife and I were discussing this, and comparing it to a recent documentary on Chernobyl. And while the Soviet response was highly political, it was quick and decisive.
By day three, they had mobilized 100s of helicopters, 100s of trucks, which by the way was a two day drive to Pripyat. All of which (equipment) are sitting in a field to this day.
A LOT of the rescue work during and after Katrina was performed by the Coast Guard, not FEMA.
Most of the recent complaining about FEMA has to do with them diverting millions in taxpayer funds from disaster relief, to instead being redirected by them to help support illegal invaders. Mostly for political purposes.....
And it's a real and just complaint.... That now appears to be backfiring on them big time.
"... Non-citizens cannot vote in the election, and no disaster funds have been diverted. Instead, (The former President) is referring to the Shelter and Services Program that saw FEMA disseminate hundreds of millions in grants from Customs and Border Protection to municipalities that saw an influx of migrants.
That program was a separate funding source with a separate purpose covering separate years – and not relevant to the current hurricane recovery efforts. ..." source: NPR Stephen Fowler 10/7/24
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"Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Tuesday said Congress has already authorized the disaster relief funds needed for the immediate response to Helene, the storm that has ravaged multiple states from Florida up through western North Carolina and Tennessee.
Speaking at the New York Stock Exchange before delivering remarks on his economic agenda, Johnson noted a replenishment of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) disaster relief fund was included in a three-month stopgap government funding bill that Congress passed, and that President Biden signed into law, last week." source: The Hill E.B. 10/1/24
What do they mean by "a separate funding source"? I think the 'funding source' is the same....the American taxpayers.
Here's an analogy....The wife married to a boozer and gambler confronts her husband when the rent money is gone saying "You gambled the rent money again and now we may get evicted"... He responds by saying..."That's a lie"....She says..."Then where is the money... to which he replies..."I drank it at the pub"...
PS: America is 35+TRILLION dollars in debt....in a few short years the interest on the debt will cost more than running the country....that's when things will get very interesting.
PS2: What will happen if the people of the affected areas in Florida and NC are unable to vote during the coming election?
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Yep....the people who spent the SS funds want us to trust them to fix SS....unbelievable..
Well that is another (valid) complaint. But no excuse for fabrications just because you are angry. Doesn't appear anyone really cares about the debit. Lots of money been going right out the back door for decades
The old Guns and Butter argument funding streams - and now margarine with the butter.
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" Myth #5: The government raids Social Security to pay for other programs
The facts: The two trust funds that pay out Social Security benefits — one for retirees and their survivors, the other for people with disabilities — have never been part of the federal government's general fund. Social Security is a separate, self-funded program. The federal government does, however, borrow from Social Security.
Here's how: Social Security's tax revenue is, by law, invested in special U.S. Treasury securities. As with all Treasury bonds, the federal government can spend the proceeds on a variety of programs. But as with all bondholders, Treasury has to pay the money back, with interest. Social Security redeems the securities to pay benefits.
This borrowing fuels the notion that the government is raiding or even stealing from Social Security and leaving it with nothing but IOUs. But the government has always made full repayment, and the interest increases Social Security's assets, to the tune of $66.9 billion in 2023."
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"Myth #1: Social Security is going broke
The facts: As long as workers and employers pay payroll taxes, Social Security will not run out of money. It's a pay-as-you-go system: Revenue coming in from FICA (Federal Insurance Contributions Act) and SECA (Self-Employed Contributions Act) taxes largely cover the benefits going out.
Social Security does face funding challenges. For decades it collected more than it paid out, building a surplus that stood at $2.79 trillion at the end of 2023. But the system is starting to pay out more than it takes in, largely because the retiree population is growing faster than the working population, and living longer. Without changes in how Social Security is financed, the surplus is projected to run out in 2035, according to the latest annual report from the program's trustees.
Even then, Social Security won't be broke. It will still collect tax revenue and pay benefits. But it will only bring in enough to pay 83 percent of scheduled benefits, according to the latest estimate. To avoid that outcome, Congress would need to take steps to shore up Social Security's finances, as it did in 1983, the last time the program nearly depleted its reserves. The steps then included raising the full retirement age, increasing the payroll tax rate and introducing an income tax on benefits "
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By Andy Markowitz, AARP Published August 25, 2020/ Updated May 06, 2024
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Out before the
"As with all Treasury bonds, the federal government can spend the proceeds on a variety of programs. But as with all bondholders, Treasury has to pay the money back, with interest. Social Security redeems the securities to pay benefits."
So the federal gov't uses SS funds for a 'variety of programs' and the Treasury (the taxpayers again) pay interest on the money the Federal gov't borrows from SS.....sounds like a Ponzi scheme to me with the taxpayers taking the hit as usual. On top of that SS benefits are now being taxed up to 85% even though the recipients were already taxed on the money they paid into the scheme. Sounds like we have a 'spending problem' rather than a 'revenue problem'. Maybe it's time to stop 'kicking the can down the road'.
So the federal gov't uses SS funds for a 'variety of programs' and the Treasury (the taxpayers again) pay interest on the money the Federal gov't borrows from SS.....sounds like a Ponzi scheme to me with the taxpayers taking the hit as usual. On top of that SS benefits are now being taxed up to 85% even though the recipients were already taxed on the money they paid into the scheme. Sounds like we have a 'spending problem' rather than a 'revenue problem'. Maybe it's time to stop 'kicking the can down the road'.
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Hurricane Andrew Cat 5 cost in today money $100 billion plus. Mayorkas said hurricane money isn't in the same pot as immigration and if it was it's 1% or less.
What sources can be trusted today....it seems they all have an agenda.
I find it hard to believe that we know so little about the would be assassin in Butler Pa. so many weeks later....but then again we don't even know for sure who was behind JFKs assassination 60 years later. Where is Joseph Mifsud?
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