More oils from PQIA 11/3

[Tom NJ]

Four more oils from PQIA, including a Mobil 1 High Mileage SL.

Petroleum Quality Institute of America

Tom NJ

 

[charbaby]

Yeah, even the quick mart oils such as HESS & 7/11 look quite good!
That Mobil 1 High Mileage looks real good!

 

[tinmanSC]

I'm confused, I thought the limit on zinc ppm was 800 for API SN/ILSAC GF-5 approved oils? I see lots of zinc over 800. I know the Mobil High Mileage is not required to have < 800 because it's SL, not SN.

 

[mrsilv04]

When will we see a test of dexos1 approved Pennzoil Synthetic Blend 5w30 (aka Pennzoil Gold?)... or does this oil not exist on the East Coast?

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
I'm confused, I thought the limit on zinc ppm was 800 for API SN/ILSAC GF-5 approved oils? I see lots of zinc over 800. I know the Mobil High Mileage is not required to have < 800 because it's SL, not SN.
The limit is for phosphorous (not Zinc) on ILSAC GF-5 not API. This oil is NOT ILSAC approved.

 

[dave1251]

Tom thank you for the update and to the PQIA and it members for its continued testing and quality assurance.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Mobil 1 oils seem to be better than ever. Searching the used oil analysis,Mobil 1 has the best ones.

 

[bigt61]

That Mobil 1 High Mileage looks like it'd be great for old hot rods.

 

[Tom NJ]

Both API and ILSAC have the same phosphorus specification - zinc is not specified. Technically, the specification is 0.08% max, so up to 849 ppm phosphorus would be a pass.

Tom NJ

 

[CT8]

Tom do you have the equipment to see what the base oil blend is?

 

[Tom NJ]

Originally Posted By: CT8
Tom do you have the equipment to see what the base oil blend is?


No, that require a gas chromatograph, which will distinguish PAO from ester from AN from mineral oil, but will not distinguish a Group III from a Group II. The analysis would cost about $200-300.

Tom NJ

 

[wemay]

Thanks as always Tom.

 

[tinmanSC]

Originally Posted By: Tom NJ
Both API and ILSAC have the same phosphorus specification - zinc is not specified. Technically, the specification is 0.08% max, so up to 849 ppm phosphorus would be a pass.

Tom NJ

Ahhh. ok. Appreciate the clarification.

 

[novadude]

Surprised that the calcium level is so low for an oil billed as a "cleaning" oil. Does anyone have any ideas about what other types of detergents they may be using? Does the high magnesium make up for the low calcium number?

 

[tenderloin]

Thanks Tom

 

[FutureDoc]

Thanks! Glad to have more!

Havoline Dino, the first triple-tested oil (2009, 2011, 2014)? Shame it was not the HM.

Would have liked to see the new package to see if there was any change other than the new label.

 

[charbaby]

Originally Posted By: novadude
Surprised that the calcium level is so low for an oil billed as a "cleaning" oil. Does anyone have any ideas about what other types of detergents they may be using? Does the high magnesium make up for the low calcium number?


I see the same thing! Typically when Calcium is low(er), Magnesium is high(er).

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
When will we see a test of dexos1 approved Pennzoil Synthetic Blend 5w30 (aka Pennzoil Gold?)... or does this oil not exist on the East Coast?

It's up to General Motors to police dexos1 oils, not the PQIA.

 

[charbaby]

I did notice that this test of the Havoline DS 5W30 is a bit heavier. It used to be on the low(er) side of the 30 wgt/close(er) to a 20 wgt. in the two previous tests.

Most recent test:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/havoline530a.htm

2011:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/TexacoHavoline.htm

2009:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/havolinelabelrevnew.htm