Anyone have any complaints with noise and Mobil 1 0W-20? All I've been hearing/reading is that its pretty good?
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more engine clatter using M1
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Anyone have any complaints with noise and Mobil 1 0W-20? All I've been hearing/reading is that its pretty good?
Frank D
I switched from Amsoil SSO 0W-30 to Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30 and have noticed no perceptable difference in valvetrain or engine noise. The Direct Injection makes quite a clatter, so that may have something to do with it by masking the sound. On another subject, peeking through the oil fill hole, the engine appears to be very, very clean with the M1. No consumption noticed in about 4K miles on it so far. If the UOA comes out good with the M1, it will be my new oil.
Anyone have any complaints with noise and Mobil 1 0W-20? All I've been hearing/reading is that its pretty good?
Frank D
I switched from Amsoil SSO 0W-30 to Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30 and have noticed no perceptable difference in valvetrain or engine noise. The Direct Injection makes quite a clatter, so that may have something to do with it by masking the sound. On another subject, peeking through the oil fill hole, the engine appears to be very, very clean with the M1. No consumption noticed in about 4K miles on it so far. If the UOA comes out good with the M1, it will be my new oil.
From reading a lot of what's on this site and others it seems the Mobil 0W-xx oils seem to be very good. Its the 5W-30 I've read a lot of complaints about. Their 10W-30 is pretty good too, I can't comment about anything above a 30 grade though.
Frank D
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Anyone have any complaints with noise and Mobil 1 0W-20? All I've been hearing/reading is that its pretty good?
Frank D
I switched from Amsoil SSO 0W-30 to Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30 and have noticed no perceptable difference in valvetrain or engine noise. The Direct Injection makes quite a clatter, so that may have something to do with it by masking the sound. On another subject, peeking through the oil fill hole, the engine appears to be very, very clean with the M1. No consumption noticed in about 4K miles on it so far. If the UOA comes out good with the M1, it will be my new oil.
As I've said before, in the cars I have owned, never a difference in sound with any brand of oil.
The M1 should do well, but expect to see a bit more Fe oxides. Nothing to worry about.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Anyone have any complaints with noise and Mobil 1 0W-20? All I've been hearing/reading is that its pretty good?
Frank D
I switched from Amsoil SSO 0W-30 to Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30 and have noticed no perceptable difference in valvetrain or engine noise. The Direct Injection makes quite a clatter, so that may have something to do with it by masking the sound. On another subject, peeking through the oil fill hole, the engine appears to be very, very clean with the M1. No consumption noticed in about 4K miles on it so far. If the UOA comes out good with the M1, it will be my new oil.
As I've said before, in the cars I have owned, never a difference in sound with any brand of oil.
The M1 should do well, but expect to see a bit more Fe oxides. Nothing to worry about.
It maybe some sludge inside the engine..try auto-rx or flush it.
My car build those kind of symptom when I was on M1 with 10k OCI and K&N filter. After using auto-rx and back to OE air filter, it does not happen again. It start sounds like that only when the oil ages around 8k.
My car build those kind of symptom when I was on M1 with 10k OCI and K&N filter. After using auto-rx and back to OE air filter, it does not happen again. It start sounds like that only when the oil ages around 8k.
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Durango - This issue has been raised many times over the last several years
The noise does not in any way relate to wear rates with M1 lubricants. It has to do with the structure of the individual lubricants and the technologies used in some engine families
I have had the "cold startup noise" in a number of engine families - Porsche (2), Benz (4), Subaru (1), BMW (1) and etc. Some M1 products seem to be more prone than others
My current Benz (M1 0W-40) is "noisy" for about 3 seconds at startup. My Boxster (M96 engine on Delvac 1 5W-40 - not a M1 "family" product) is always noisy at startup - cold or hot - for around 3 seconds. This is very common!
The M271 Benz engine and its predecessor were well known to create such noises and much time at the design stage (chain, piston,casting/metallurgy, etc suppliers) retructuring the M217 engine to alleviate most of it. They all did a great job with a wonderfully robust DI or PI Supercharged engines - but the noise is still there to a lessor degree!
The worst engine for the cold startup noise for me was the MY98 BMW Z3 2.8, and it was the same on M1 0W-40 and Delvac 1 5W-40 They are a wonderfully durable engine too
It is a multitude of factors that produce the end result - the "noise". It is not a wear related matter
I agree that it can be disconcerting for some people!
Durango - This issue has been raised many times over the last several years
The noise does not in any way relate to wear rates with M1 lubricants. It has to do with the structure of the individual lubricants and the technologies used in some engine families
I have had the "cold startup noise" in a number of engine families - Porsche (2), Benz (4), Subaru (1), BMW (1) and etc. Some M1 products seem to be more prone than others
My current Benz (M1 0W-40) is "noisy" for about 3 seconds at startup. My Boxster (M96 engine on Delvac 1 5W-40 - not a M1 "family" product) is always noisy at startup - cold or hot - for around 3 seconds. This is very common!
The M271 Benz engine and its predecessor were well known to create such noises and much time at the design stage (chain, piston,casting/metallurgy, etc suppliers) retructuring the M217 engine to alleviate most of it. They all did a great job with a wonderfully robust DI or PI Supercharged engines - but the noise is still there to a lessor degree!
The worst engine for the cold startup noise for me was the MY98 BMW Z3 2.8, and it was the same on M1 0W-40 and Delvac 1 5W-40 They are a wonderfully durable engine too
It is a multitude of factors that produce the end result - the "noise". It is not a wear related matter
I agree that it can be disconcerting for some people!
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My dad's old '89 Mistubishi 2000 GTX had over 400,000KM before it died and it always from day one in the cold made a tapping noise when it was below 0 C. He always used rock bottom cheap oil in it and it made it fine to the 400K mark. It was burning lots of oil and had virtually no compression left but it made it. Never a lifter problem with it even though it clattered all the time.
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