Moly is bad stuff...is this true?
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Pure bunk....if we are talking about oil soluble Mo compounds such as MoTDC. Solid Mo compounds aren't used in motor oil. So just call the guy a jackash and move on with life.
Well, that's what I thought from reading here on BITOG, over and over. This kindda stuff drives me crazy. I come to a place like this with people in the know about wear additives such as moly being good in proper amounts...then some guy on another web site trashes the stuff.
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Yeah ..and he thinks Mobile wan will turn into a lapping paste too.
Moly, as in molybdenum, is a metal. Lubeheads talking about "moly" are usually referring to various compounds that include molybdenum but have differing characteristics. So it depends what that poster was thinking of as "moly".
I think there are some questionable oil additives that actually have moly solids in them which would be bad. The moly that comes in the oil is good. If you buy an additive that increases the moly be careful that it isn't the "filter clogging" type.
does moly displace zinc?
Any oil that has moly in it is good, including Synpower. If you're trying to boost the moly by dumping something in you need to do some research to see what it is. Unfortunately the container usually doesn't give very good info.
Does M1 5w30 hv Moly in it? if not what brands has it in their mix?
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While anecdotally or even comtemparily true, I'd be careful with such statement. A good oil is a well balanced and well formulated oil, and certainly there are fine oils without Mo.
Yeah, such a statement might put you in the position of the individual whose statement this thread is addressing. One need to talk about specifics - elemental moly, or what compound there of. Molydisulfied (sp) is a solid and insoluble (depending upon particle size, cold lead to filter pluging if in sufficient quanity). Moly that's often seen with over the counter oils (I don't recall the chemical formulations and names), is mostly a soluble compound.
There's likely something on compounds in a link on the BITOG home page - "lubrication design" or "lubricant additives".
Take care.
There's likely something on compounds in a link on the BITOG home page - "lubrication design" or "lubricant additives".
Take care.
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The statement should be worded, "any moly already in the oil add pack is "good moly".
I remember when ArcoGraphic came out. It was black in color. It supposedly had been well tested and I was thinking about using it. But I never did. And before too long it disappeared from the market. I never did find out if it was a good motor oil or not. Maybe it had the old style Moly in it and actually was not good.
There also have been Moly additives available that a person could put into a car. For that matter Tufoil has Moly AND PTFE in it. I never used the Moly additives.
The Saturn dealership in Colorado Springs used to sell a graphite containing additive.
The Moly in modern oils is different.
There also have been Moly additives available that a person could put into a car. For that matter Tufoil has Moly AND PTFE in it. I never used the Moly additives.
The Saturn dealership in Colorado Springs used to sell a graphite containing additive.
The Moly in modern oils is different.
One of the most under-rated oil additive is this product.
http://www.schaefferoil.com/specialty/132.html
I have been using it for about 2500 miles and my mpg's have gone up about 1.3mpg according to the on board computer and my engine revs smoother and quieter. I have become a believer of moly, one of the reasons I am going to give Schaeffer's Supreme 7000 a try and reasons why I love Pennzoil, Exxon Superflo and Redline cuz they contain holy moly. Did I say I love Moly? Anything that reduces friction cant be half bad!
http://www.schaefferoil.com/specialty/132.html
I have been using it for about 2500 miles and my mpg's have gone up about 1.3mpg according to the on board computer and my engine revs smoother and quieter. I have become a believer of moly, one of the reasons I am going to give Schaeffer's Supreme 7000 a try and reasons why I love Pennzoil, Exxon Superflo and Redline cuz they contain holy moly. Did I say I love Moly? Anything that reduces friction cant be half bad!
No, THe moly used in oil is completly different then the moly used in grease. In oil it is completely soulble form much like how sugur goes into solution in the right amount of water. Moly used in grease is basicly solid moly from ground up mineral deposits. The moly in grease and most assembly lubes will clog a filter but not oil.
Now their are some theory's about moly competeing with ZDDP if the concentration goes too high. We have not really had clear consistent proof of this though. We do know that most formulators claim that anything past 150ppm of moly is not for anti-wear it is for friction modification.
Now their are some theory's about moly competeing with ZDDP if the concentration goes too high. We have not really had clear consistent proof of this though. We do know that most formulators claim that anything past 150ppm of moly is not for anti-wear it is for friction modification.
Arco Graphite.....had er...graphite....no moly......and it was solid grahite and it didn't work all that great.....
Not sure this is relevant, but I have to shake my 2 year old bottles of Redline (10W-30) because a brown sediment deposits on the bottom of the bottle. Not sure how long the oil sat at the AAP warehouse.
I also had a UOA that showed significant reduction on Moly as noted by bulwnkl.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...true#Post249678
I always wondered if the moly congealed and then got filtered by the bypass...
I also had a UOA that showed significant reduction on Moly as noted by bulwnkl.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...true#Post249678
I always wondered if the moly congealed and then got filtered by the bypass...
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