Mobil1 users are the most stubborn people I've....

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Originally Posted By: BuickGN
There are two kinds.

The people who think M1 is the end all be all of oil but don't know why.

The people who hate M1 just because it's popular.

Not too many in the middle unfortunately.



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Originally Posted By: BuickGN
There are two kinds.

The people who think M1 is the end all be all of oil but don't know why.

The people who hate M1 just because it's popular.

Not too many in the middle unfortunately.


So true...
 
Used to use it (M1) exclusively because it was reasonably priced (used to be $15/5qt at Wal-Mart) and seemed to do well in my cars (still using my 5w20 up on my CR-V). Now I'm on to PP since it seems to be at least as good and is a better price and just as available. If something else comes along that's as good or better for cheaper than I'll use that.

Guess that puts me in the middle?
 
Originally Posted By: BuickGN
There are two kinds.

The people who think M1 is the end all be all of oil but don't know why.

The people who hate M1 just because it's popular.

Not too many in the middle unfortunately.


I'd like to think that's a simplification, but concede that people are all too likely to polarize over a given issue. Our society as a whole has lost the ability to discuss issues. I think it has filtered down from politics and radio talk shows. (seriously!) We scream "Loony Liberal," "Amoral Republican Slime," and now, "M1 Hater" at each other without giving it a second thought.

Having read most of the M1 related threads, I think there ARE a number of people who CAN distinguish shades of grey. Unfortunately, these people, and their posts/opinions, usually get drowned out by all the finger pointing and squealing.
 
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Originally Posted By: OrdnanceMarine


Guess that puts me in the middle?


No sir, that proves you have common sense.
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Being blindly loyal to consumer products based on nothing but emotion is bordering on pathological. It's one of the reasons I many times, despise living in our consumer society.
 
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I used the M1 5w-30 once, had to keep adding more since the car really burned it, and stopped. Since then I've used many different oils. I'd run it again if a good sale came along.

A friend refused to believe that Schaeffer's could be better than M1 for certain applications. That must be the one of the folks you're talking about.
 
Originally Posted By: sciphi
I used the M1 5w-30 once, had to keep adding more since the car really burned it, and stopped. Since then I've used many different oils. I'd run it again if a good sale came along.

A friend refused to believe that Schaeffer's could be better than M1 for certain applications. That must be the one of the folks you're talking about.



Precisely. M1 is the ONLY synthetic oil available anyway, right?

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I never stated M1 was the best oil.

If you truly believe that some of the top auto makers just put M1 in because of money and or a marketing ploy....that is your opinion.

I doubt someone who spends $260,000 on a Aston buys it for the M1 inside. IMO Aston and the rest use M1 because it is a well known quality product that will serve their respective vehicles and customers well.

If each company benefits by the relationship, what is the problem?
 
Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
..ever met.

I'm being serious about this.

I know a few people that use Mobil1 exclusively. Most of them because they believe that the Mobil1 sticker on their oil cap is not actually paid for by Mobil.

Why exactly do Mobil1 users believe so steadfastly that M1 is the best synthetic oil on the market?

I love it when one of these guys tell me that I'm wrong about whatever I'm saying. I'm just "wrong" because they say so. :D

It's absurd, and puzzling, too.


Why are you trolling? Is someone trying to force you to use M1? Didn't think so. Did you ask yourself what the point of your post was? Just thought I'd get my reply in before this pointless thread gets locked.

Use what makes you happy. End of story.
 
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Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
..ever met.

I'm being serious about this.

I know a few people that use Mobil1 exclusively. Most of them because they believe that the Mobil1 sticker on their oil cap is not actually paid for by Mobil.

Why exactly do Mobil1 users believe so steadfastly that M1 is the best synthetic oil on the market?

I love it when one of these guys tell me that I'm wrong about whatever I'm saying. I'm just "wrong" because they say so. :D

It's absurd, and puzzling, too.


Why are you trolling? Is someone trying to force you to use M1? Didn't think so. Did you ask yourself what the point of your post was? Just thought I'd get my reply in before this pointless thread gets locked.

Use what makes you happy. End of story.



Anything you say, Sheriff.
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Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
..ever met.

I'm being serious about this.


Kinda like politics. How many die-hard politicians will switch their political party at the drop of a hat?

While we are on the Mobil 1 subject, can anybody enlighten us exactly what Mobil/Exxon refinery is/was down after hurricane Katrina? You have all seen these sign on the shelves saying that a refinery was damaged....
WHICH refinery and exactly where is the address of the refinery?
BTW, I am not a Mobil 1 user.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: OrdnanceMarine




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Being blindly loyal to consumer products based on nothing but emotion is bordering on pathological. It's one of the reasons I many times, despise living in our consumer society.


I agree. I also think that Mobil 1 being used as a FF in so many engines is the sales/marketing dept doing their job, and yet another reason why XOM is the most profitable company in history. I believe to a large degree they paid, and struck a cooperative advertising agreement for the right to be used as a factory fill. Granted the car makers had certain requirements that had to be met, and they were met. To say its the best oil because GM, or one of the other makers on the list uses it would again be an opinion, and nothing more. All a car maker really cares about who offers him a good price on the FF, and that oil having an engine last through the warranty period. Beyond that does it really matter to a car maker?

I am not singling out Mobil here, the same goes for any oil used by a mfg for a FF.

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Originally Posted By: BuickGN
There are two kinds.

The people who think M1 is the end all be all of oil but don't know why.

The people who hate M1 just because it's popular.

Not too many in the middle unfortunately.


I will not run Mobil products these days based on the parent company although I never really ran that oil brand( once in a while - used the filters a lot )just because I never believed all the marketing hype. Good oil but not great IMO. ExxonMobil was the largest profiteer during the gas price gouging going on and that really soured me on that company and their products. Whereas before I was just someone who didn't use their products but would if needed I became someone who refuses to use their products period under any circumstance except a complete emergency. I realize many may think that is stupid or lame but I can't help it. It is how I feel. That company will never see a dime of mine if I can help it ever again.

There is not a lot a person can do about the cost of gas to protest it except cut back where you can AND do your best not to buy products from that company. As a result I will not ever buy Exxon or Mobil gas nor Mobil fluids nor filters. It is the best I can do to protest what was done to us. I know it was not all EM's fault as well. They just profited the most from it and I CAN do something about it in a round about way even if it is completely insignificant to them. I know and I care who gets my $$$.

I also don't feel M1 is the great oil it is hyped up to be either. Mobil oils got their reputation by becoming FF on so many vehicles and by excellent marketing NOT because they are the end all be all of oils. Their marketing exceeds their product IMO. Mobil has reeled in more people with those oil caps than anyone ever could have dreamed. Whoever came up with that idea should be a rich man. Oh look the oil fill cap says to only use Mobil oil so that means M1 is great or that I have to use it or else.
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Even though the vast majority of people's cars don't have those caps they still work as evidenced in this thread. AMAZING marketing! Oh the Corvette fill cap says only use M1 so it must be the greatest oil ever. OH PLEASE!
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FF does not mean it is the best oil either. Just that their oil meets mfg's spec's and they sold it to the mfg the cheapest. That is all it means! The fact they are so large and have the capacity to produce FF fluids also helps them. A car mfg is not going to buy from a small company that does not have the production capacity to provide them the FF and bottled fluids for parts. Mobil gets a huge leg up because they are so big.

I can buy superior products( IMO = RP, RL, Amsoil, Schaeffers )or buy products that are as good as or better than M1 for less as well( IMO = PP, QS, VVL ). Why would I support EM? There is nothing IMO that makes me want to use M1 or tells me it is a better option. Their products are actually good, very good being honest, I admit. I don't refuse to use it because I think it is bad oil though. I don't use it because of who makes it primarily and because I can get "better" or "as good" from a company I don't detest.

EM could care less about the customer. They care about $$$ period! All companies care about $$$ but many also do care about the customer at least a little along the way. IMO EM does not give a hoot. They are so big and so popular now they can afford to lose a customer or two by being apethetic and crooked. Enough other sheep to keep the $$$ rolling in.

One thing that also really bothers me in addition to the gas crisis issue is they are like a crooked politician under oath when asked a direct question. Twist, turn, dodge, evade, ignore, lie by ommission, etc... Not a company I feel is trustworthy and thus worthy of my support.

Where does that have me fall BuckGN?
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I am probably a "Hater"
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but I don't hate the product itself.
 
I don't recall anyone saying M1 is the best oil in all aplications. But it is a very good oil, tried and tested for many years. Myself, I've used it for 38 years with never an oil related failure. With that said I'm sure others could say the same about their preference in oil as well. I don't critize other oils as many of you do. Why would start a thread like this, except to stir up a hornets nest. I think this is more about attacking the leader in the oil industry because they are at the top than the quality of their product.Where would any of us be if XM closed over night?
 
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I didn't start the thread, nor did I attack the leader. The leader disappointed me a loyal user, so I moved on to another product. That product my opinion is a better product for less money. If you're happy with Mobil 1 and it served you well for 38 years I would stick with it. It served me for over 20 years, but my views have since changed, so for me it was time to move on. I think I'd be stubborn if I took a strong rooted stance and tried to defend them.

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Originally Posted By: Kruse
Originally Posted By: Hethaerto






While we are on the Mobil 1 subject, can anybody enlighten us exactly what Mobil/Exxon refinery is/was down after hurricane Katrina? You have all seen these sign on the shelves saying that a refinery was damaged....
WHICH refinery and exactly where is the address of the refinery?
BTW, I am not a Mobil 1 user.


The Beaumont,Tx plant was hit hard (flooded)
 
My only defence of the product is 31 years of no oil related failures and 2 resent, this fall, UOAs showing no wear problems using M1. Both 9000 mile oil runs. If you are disapointed with M1, thats fine, you have the freedom to change. The other oils talked about here are all very good products as well.I just don't see this histeria against them.
 
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My beef was the way they treated my brother and I in an inquiry we emailed them. Their attitude for lack of a better word SU,,CKED. For me that was the icing on the cake. Anyone that is happy with them and is having good results should stick by them.

It's not my mission to sway people, honestly I don't really care. I do enjoy reading and participating in these threads,. When Mobil adds me to their payroll then I will defend them, until then I use what I feel is best for me. I use the word "feel", I base that on my research and my conclusions that I drew.

I do agree with you on the hysteria, some people defend the product like they would defend their wife or child. This however is not worth it.......
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