Mobil synthetic-oil formulation guide

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Many people like Mobil, as it makes very high quality engine oil. The Exxon-Mobil basestocks and Infineum (part of Mobil and Shell) additives are some of the very best in the industry.

Engine-oil blending is an art and there is always a compromise in choosing the ingredients. A pure PAO (Group IV) oil wouldn't be maximally thermally stable for example and it would also harm the seals and have poor solvency properties; therefore, either Group V or Group III (or II+) are mixed with PAO basestocks. There are also many different types of PAO and Group V basestocks available too choose from, complicating the blenders' job even more. Last but not least, a proper additive package is also crucial. Viscosity-index modifiers are also a very important part of oil blending, as a large quantity of low-quality viscosity-index improvers would result in an oil that would permanently shear to a much thinner kinematic and HTHS viscosity.

Here is the list of Mobil's Group IV PAO (SpectraSyn) and Group V Synesstic basestocks. Another Group V basestock line is Esterex, apparently a cheap, low-grade alternative to Synesstic, mostly available in US:

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This is an example of Group IV and V blends of PCMO (such as Mobil 1):

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An example of Group III and IV blend of PCMO (such as Mobil Super Synthetic or Pennzoil Platinum) or Group II+ and IV blend (such as Quaker State Synthetic Blend):

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You can also formulate two-cycle-engine oils with synthetic basestocks:

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Finally this is how you formulate small-four-cycle-engine (such as motorcycle engines) oils with Mobil synthetic basestocks:

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Nice info. However, I bet people are going to think this shows how Mobil formulates its own products, and that worries me...
 
Am I psychic, or what?

This is a list of Mobil's commercially available synthetic base stocks, and some suggestions on how to use them to make various grades.

It's NOT a description of how Mobil formulates its own products.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Am I psychic, or what?

This is a list of Mobil's commercially available synthetic base stocks, and some suggestions on how to use them to make various grades.

It's NOT a description of how Mobil formulates its own products.

Yes, it's taken from Synthetic Lubricant Basestocks Formulations Guide by Exxon-Mobil. It's only a guide and it's not the actual formulation of Mobil engine oils.
(However, you can naturally expect the various Mobil oil products to be similar to some degree to what is suggested in the guide.)

You can download the full guide here after registering with the ExxonMobil Chemical site.
 
Originally Posted By: Smokefan1977
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The example of Group IV/V 0W-40 in the guide is made of

three oil basestocks:

43.5% 4 cSt* Group IV (= PAO)
23% 6 cSt Group IV (= PAO)
10% 5 cSt Group V (Group V is any man-made oil basestock that is not PAO, in this case a derivative of naphthalene)

(*kinematic viscosity @ 100 C)

11.5% additive package (detergent, antiwear, etc.)

12% viscosity-index improver
 
Originally Posted By: Smokefan1977
So does anyone know what the 0-40 is made up of in terms of basestocks?

Which 0w-40? The above are just some general blending suggestions and don't pertain to any specific oil in particular.
 
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Another Group V basestock line is Esterex, apparently a cheap, low-grade alternative to Synesstic

Some are, some aren't.

Esterex P61 and P81 are phthalate diesters which are cheap, but have very low VIs and relatively high pour points. Mainly used for air compressor oils and as seal swell additives.

Esterex TM111 is a trimellitate triester, moderate price and also low VI and relatively high pour point. Mainly used in gear oils and various industrial formulations, rarely in PCMOs.

The Esterex A series are adipate type diesters, moderately priced and excellent physical properties, similar to PAOs but with polarity.

Esterex NP343 and NP451 are POEs which are high priced and more oxdatively and thermally stable than diesters, Synesstic ANs, and PAOs, and have better lubricity. The NP343 (TMP C8C10) is ideal for PCMOs while the NP451 (PE C5-C10) is better suited for jet engine oils.

Tom NJ
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Wheres the visom?

I don't think they have sufficient capacity to offer them to the merchant market, and probably reserve them for internal use, such as in the Mobil 1 line.

Tom NJ
 
Originally Posted By: Tom NJ
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Another Group V basestock line is Esterex, apparently a cheap, low-grade alternative to Synesstic

Some are, some aren't.

Esterex P61 and P81 are phthalate diesters which are cheap, but have very low VIs and relatively high pour points. Mainly used for air compressor oils and as seal swell additives.

Esterex TM111 is a trimellitate triester, moderate price and also low VI and relatively high pour point. Mainly used in gear oils and various industrial formulations, rarely in PCMOs.

The Esterex A series are adipate type diesters, moderately priced and excellent physical properties, similar to PAOs but with polarity.

Esterex NP343 and NP451 are POEs which are high priced and more oxdatively and thermally stable than diesters, Synesstic ANs, and PAOs, and have better lubricity. The NP343 (TMP C8C10) is ideal for PCMOs while the NP451 (PE C5-C10) is better suited for jet engine oils.

Tom NJ

Great info, thanks!
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
I get the feeling we are being trolled.


I'm not so sure.
Here is XOM showing how you might use its commercially available basestocks to make a finished oil.
While this is not the same as XOM telling anyone how it formulates an oil, I'd say it's a pretty broad hint.
Would XOM show other blenders how to make a better product than M1?
 
Originally Posted By: Smokefan1977
Pete the same 0-40 your using

The question can't be answered from the data posted by the OP. It is a trade secret.
 
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
I get the feeling we are being trolled.


I'm not so sure.
Here is XOM showing how you might use its commercially available basestocks to make a finished oil.
While this is not the same as XOM telling anyone how it formulates an oil, I'd say it's a pretty broad hint.
Would XOM show other blenders how to make a better product than M1?

I wasn't referring to the OP. I was referring to the people asking about Mobil 1 formulations.
 
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