Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF

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Good morning all,
I am new to the forum, but I have been a longtime lurker and have learned much over the years from the experts on this forum. What finally pushed me over the edge to register and post is a question I've been pondering for some time regarding the use of Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF in my 97 Ford F350 4x4 7.3L Diesel with the 5 speed zf5-S47 transmission.

The original specified fluid for this application was Ford Synthetic Mercon, however this fluid was discontinued about 10 years ago. The current Ford fluid charts recommend the Synthetic Blend Mercon V, and while it is available from the dealer it is about $12 per quart and it would need to be ordered in.

Awhile back I read a post from another OBS F350 owner and it was discussing that ZF is now recommending using Transynd fluid in the ZF5-S47 transmission. After spending several hours reading about Transynd I've come to the conclusion that it would be very good for my application, as the TES-295 spec seems to have been written for applications that will work the fluid with excessive amounts of heat over long periods of time. I'm in Arizona and during the summer months it is not uncommon for the ambient temperature to be over 120, and fluid breakdown due to heat has been a concern of mine.

An exhaustive search for Transynd locally has yielded few results, with a couple of places willing to order it, however it is not cheap. Several of the shops I talked to mentioned that they use the Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF in place of Transynd, stating that there really is no difference and that it is a licensed TES-295 fluid. I've seen several posts reflecting the same while doing some searching to confirm that. Which brings me to the question I came here seeking assistance with:

Is there going to be any problems if I use Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF (TES-295) in the ZF5-S47? It is available locally and for a good price. Is there a reason that I shouldn't run it (other then its not the recommended fluid?), any thoughts on if I could run the fluid in the transfer case and power steering system?
 
My question is why run one of these fluids when you can get a Dex/Merc that is rated Mercon/Mercon V for Under $20 per gallon at any autoparts store or Warlmart. Castrol and Valvoline both have an oil that is specced Mercon V (which is pretty much just a better version of the original mercon) that is easily available.
 
I agree that Mercon V is readily available, I can even get the gallon at the dealership for $22 OTD, but Dex/Merc or Mercon V is not the specified fluid. The specified fluid per the current ford applicability chards is "Synthetic Blend" Mercon V, not the normal Mercon V that is readily available.

The original manufacturer of the transmission is recommending Transynd, since that is not available locally I am considering Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF. Anyone have any experience with this fluid? Is it substantially different then Transynd?
 
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Originally Posted By: Zarrinvz24
Awhile back I read a post from another OBS F350 owner and it was discussing that ZF is now recommending using Transynd fluid in the ZF5-S47 transmission.


Looks like you're referencing yourself: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1427361-mobil-delvac-in-zf5s47.html

Here's the original document: https://ci-portal.zf.com/global/media/zf...ansmissions.pdf

P.S. - You should probably look and see what ZF recommends* when ATF (an assembly-line efficiency/bean-counter move) isn't mandated by the vehicle manufacturer. It may make your head explode...







(*For everyone that wants to jump in, the answer is 75w-80 MTF).
 
So what is the Transmax-S that is specified? Just a multi-vehicle synthetic fluid? That's what it looks like from what I can see.
 
Mobil delvac1 atf ils a yellow métal friendly oïl. Allison recommandé it because mobil sent to the trouble of passing Allison test , yellow metal test is one insanity but this oil pass it, this oil in cars or truck with yellow metal is a god sent,but if your transmission does not have yellow metal in it ,its pretty much pointless to put this oil in it
 
Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
Originally Posted By: Zarrinvz24
Awhile back I read a post from another OBS F350 owner and it was discussing that ZF is now recommending using Transynd fluid in the ZF5-S47 transmission.


Looks like you're referencing yourself: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1427361-mobil-delvac-in-zf5s47.html

Here's the original document: https://ci-portal.zf.com/global/media/zf...ansmissions.pdf

P.S. - You should probably look and see what ZF recommends* when ATF (an assembly-line efficiency/bean-counter move) isn't mandated by the vehicle manufacturer. It may make your head explode...







(*For everyone that wants to jump in, the answer is 75w-80 MTF).


I made that post today.

Where are you seeing they recommend 75w80 MTF? I did contact ZF itself and received a response from customer service that they recommend Transmax-S/Transynd, which lines up exactly with the link you posted.

Perhaps I should revise the question to be simply: Is the Delvac ATF substantially different then transynd?
 
Originally Posted By: Zarrinvz24
Where are you seeing they recommend 75w80 MTF? I did contact ZF itself and received a response from customer service that they recommend Transmax-S/Transynd, which lines up exactly with the link you posted.

Perhaps I should revise the question to be simply: Is the Delvac ATF substantially different then transynd?


Does this thread help at all?

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2069307

I still want to know if they recommend/spec Transmax-S if it's any different than a multi-vehicle synthetic fluid. Such as Maxlife or Mobil 1 ATF.
 
If I were towing a lot with it in AZ, I'd add a cheap auxilliary AT cooler to it and be happy with a synthetic Mercon V as Ford recommends. There are lots of high quality, synthetic Mercon V alternatives available cheaply. An aux transmission cooler gets to the root of your problem better than running down a very slightly better odd-ball fluid at considerable extra hassle and expense. There are inexpensive non-powered units for this vehicle (Hayden) that are easy to install.
 
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Originally Posted By: Oro_O
If I were towing a lot with it in AZ, I'd add a cheap auxilliary AT cooler to it and be happy with a synthetic Mercon V as Ford recommends. There are lots of high quality, synthetic Mercon V alternatives available cheaply. An aux transmission cooler gets to the root of your problem better than running down a very slightly better odd-ball fluid at considerable extra hassle and expense. There are inexpensive non-powered units for this vehicle (Hayden) that are easy to install.

This is a manual transmission, so, no pump.
I think he is looking for something a little beefier/cheaper than what Ford specifies.
 
Well from everything I've read about that spec and the fluid, it should be more than acceptable to use the Amsoil product MolaKule noted.

It even seems Maxlife or Mobil 1 ATF would work too.
 
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws

This is a manual transmission, so, no pump.
I think he is looking for something a little beefier/cheaper than what Ford specifies.


Sorry, misunderstood. But in that case, then I am thinking like kschachn - it's less critical and there are many alternatives.
 
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Originally Posted By: Zarrinvz24
The specified fluid per the current ford applicability chards is "Synthetic Blend" Mercon V, not the normal Mercon V that is readily available.

Confusing marketing. They are the one and same.
Contact your local Chevron and Mobil distributors, the ones that do retail in addition to fleet/industrial may surprise you by their pricing ( I never pay more than $390 per quart for Mercon V here)
Good luck
 
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