Mobil 5,000

OtisBlkR1 · Jul 9, 2013

Ive read a few post's on here about Mobil 5000 but i have questions, is this the conventional sister to Mobil 1 ? I was looking around the mart for a inexpensive conventional for 3,000 mile oil changes on step moms mini-van. (short OCI is her choice) for $12.xx this seems to fit the bill pretty nice, especially on a 95 Dodge Caravan with the 6 banger in it. This van has over 200,000 on the clock. I was having a hard time deciding between this Mobil and Supertech at walmart and both seemed to be at the same price point. I cant see putting YB OR WB in this van with so many miles and such SHORT oci's Buying either supertech or mobil5000 saves me enuff to buy puro filter v.s. the more name brand alternatives

I cant see much sway one way or the other between these two oils in this application

What say you ?

901Memphis · Jul 9, 2013

Mobil is superior to ST.

morepwr · Jul 9, 2013

The Mobil will serve you well for that short of a service interval.

147_Grain · Jul 9, 2013

Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Mobil [5000] is superior to ST.

+1

volk06 · Jul 9, 2013

Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Mobil [5000] is superior to ST.

+1

How so?

That statement is wrong. Mobil Super 5000 is no better than ST nor worse, it is the same respectfully. used oil analysis have been posted to back this up. The end results are the same, low wear numbers even in extended OCIs. No one can currently prove Mobil Super 5000 protects or is a better oil than ST.

However, I'd use the Mobil Super 5000 since I know who the manufacturer actually is and know it is consistent. ST can be mobil, WPP, or citgo. And I have successfully used Mobil Super in the past. But this does not mean it is superior to ST, just a preference.

OtisBlkR1 · Jul 9, 2013

Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Mobil [5000] is superior to ST.

+1

How so? Mobil Super 5000 is no better than ST. used oil analysis have been posted to back this up. The end results are the same, low wear numbers even in extended OCIs. No one can currently prove Mobil Super 5000 protects or is a better oil than ST.

However, I'd use the Mobil Super 5000 since I know who the manufacturer actually is and know it is consistent. ST can be mobil, WPP, or citgo.

so im on the mark thats its basically a price point debate between these two ?

do you know volk if MobilS5 is related to Mobil 1 ? i dont think ive read that on here before..

volk06 · Jul 9, 2013

Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Mobil [5000] is superior to ST.

+1

How so? Mobil Super 5000 is no better than ST. used oil analysis have been posted to back this up. The end results are the same, low wear numbers even in extended OCIs. No one can currently prove Mobil Super 5000 protects or is a better oil than ST.

However, I'd use the Mobil Super 5000 since I know who the manufacturer actually is and know it is consistent. ST can be mobil, WPP, or citgo.

so im on the mark thats its basically a price point debate between these two ?

do you know volk if MobilS5 is related to Mobil 1 ? i dont think ive read that on here before..

Yes its the price point.

Mobil Super is a completely different line up than Mobil 1. This marketing link kind of shows the tiers of XOMs oils.

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English-LCW/carengineoils_product-comparison-chart.aspx

There is Mobil Super 5000, conventional
There is Mobil Super 5000 High Mileage, blend
There is Mobil Super 5000 Full synthetic
Then there is the Mobil 1 "Advanced Full synthetic" line up

Same oil company but different lines of oils. The only relation is its make by the same company.

mongo161 · Jul 9, 2013

IMO....take a hard look at the specials Advance Auto has for quality conventional along with your Local Napa.

With Filter....these deals are.....very good deals.

I changed the oil in a couple of neighbors cars using the Napa specials. 50/50 synthetic and conventional store brand oil and a Napa silver oil filter. IMO....same as Valvoline brand oil since both oils are bottled by Ashland.

OtisBlkR1 · Jul 9, 2013

Now im tracking, so it is a Mobil product (thats what i was getting at) and frankly its much cheaper than Pennzoil Conventional and Valvoline Conventional by $3+ bucks for the 5 quart jugg..

So ive never paid any attention to this oil before but now it has my attention, how does it compair to the above mentioned ?

volk06 · Jul 9, 2013

Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
Now im tracking, so it is a Mobil product (thats what i was getting at) and frankly its much cheaper than Pennzoil Conventional and Valvoline Conventional by $3+ bucks for the 5 quart jugg..

So ive never paid any attention to this oil before but now it has my attention, how does it compair to the above mentioned ?

It is just as good as the ones you mention. They all meet the same specs. Heres a link, you can look at the different additive packages.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresultssep2011.html

Mobil Super 5000 does not use moly but instead a newer technology with Titanium.

147_Grain · Jul 9, 2013

Both Mobil 5000 and SuperTech are good oils. I give the Mobil product a slight edge due to the moly (155 versus 44). Have regularly used both products in customers' vehicles over the years without complaint.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/mobil5000labelrevnew.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/May 2013/supertech.htm

volk06 · Jul 9, 2013

Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Both Mobil 5000 and SuperTech are good oils. I give the Mobil product a slight edge due to the moly (155 versus 44). Have regularly used both products in customers' vehicles over the years without complaint.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/mobil5000labelrevnew.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/May 2013/supertech.htm

The Mobil Super 5000 link you posted was an old VOA. Mobil Super 5000 does not use moly any more. Therefore by your thinking ST would now be better since it now has more moly than Mobil Super 5000.

OtisBlkR1 · Jul 9, 2013

Ive spent considerable time pricing (the specials/ the sales) v.s. Walmarts everyday prices for the same thing or similiar products, once in awhile your right.. the sale will best Walmart by a buck or even two, but (in my particular siuation) Walmart is on the edge of town V.S. the other stores being in town, by the time i figure in fuel and time to reach the parts stores i usually find its not worth the small $ saving.. just alot easier to stick with the big box store..

However, when AZ has there Techron sale.. ill drive as its worth the savings to stock up.. so its all situation dependant..

Im with you however, if people arent afraid to shop parts stores specials they can usually save atleast a buck or two over the big box store.

salv · Jul 9, 2013

Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Both Mobil 5000 and SuperTech are good oils. I give the Mobil product a slight edge due to the moly (155 versus 44). Have regularly used both products in customers' vehicles over the years without complaint.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/mobil5000labelrevnew.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/May 2013/supertech.htm

There is no moly in Mobil Super 5000. It has titanium instead. The posted link is Mobil Clean 5000 which was replaced by Mobil Super 5000 at the SN/GF-5 rollout.
IMO, Mobil Super 5000 is the best conventional PCMO on the market. I would use it even if others were at the same price.

OtisBlkR1 · Jul 9, 2013

Well at the price point of $12 for a 5 quart jugg, and if its on par with Valvoline or Pennzoil conventional.. Mobil is a no brainer. Ive bought two juggs for her van and if i like it i may consider it for some of my autos in the future.

JANDSZIRKLE · Jul 9, 2013

There is no moly in Mobil Super 5000. It has titanium instead. The posted link is Mobil Clean 5000 which was replaced by Mobil Super 5000 at the SN/GF-5 rollout.
IMO, Mobil Super 5000 is the best conventional PCMO on the market. I would use it even if others were at the same price. [/quote]

Titanium seems too be the trend and Mobil Super 5000 is using it. I do use the mobil super in my mothers old 94 corolla with alot of miles. She was getting supertech, changing 3 times a year, most all short runs,(shes disabled)i see no noticeable difference, but as said above, the Mobil Super 5000 is a good conventional oil from a reputable company whereas the supertech seems too have some variance at times.
Just my 2 cents.

mjk · Jul 9, 2013

I've been using Mobil Super 5000 High Mileage, for some time and it works for my needs. The HM version has slowed my oil use to 1qt/5500 mile OCI in my 1996 V6 camry.

Honestly, if you are stuck with 3k OCIs, any SN/SM oil is going to be fine. It would seem to be a decision based solely on the best sale, at that point.

OtisBlkR1 · Jul 9, 2013

Off topic but related, She brought me 5 quarts of something on sale at AZ and a filter last time around (a few months ago) and with a top up with supertech last month.. this weekend she arrived and the van was making plenty of top end racket. I dumped the sale oil/super tech mix and replaced with the mobil 5,000 and a puro filter. I instantly noticed the engine get quieter.. Its rare anymore that i raise my eyebrows with anything oil related, and this suprised me that the engine got that much quieter that quick.. i was also suprised how much racket it was making for a a OCI with less than 3,000 miles on it. now obviously the oil that came out of the van v.s. the oil going in was thicker so thats going to play in to it

chubbs1 · Jul 9, 2013

Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
Off topic but related, She brought me 5 quarts of something on sale at AZ and a filter last time around (a few months ago) and with a top up with supertech last month.. this weekend she arrived and the van was making plenty of top end racket. I dumped the sale oil/super tech mix and replaced with the mobil 5,000 and a puro filter. I instantly noticed the engine get quieter.. Its rare anymore that i raise my eyebrows with anything oil related, and this suprised me that the engine got that much quieter that quick.. i was also suprised how much racket it was making for a a OCI with less than 3,000 miles on it. now obviously the oil that came out of the van v.s. the oil going in was thicker so thats going to play in to it

Yes, I do think it is the thicker "new oil" that makes your engine seem to quiet down. I do believe there are oils that quiet an engine and it can't be in my head because I have had high hopes for some and been disappointed and little hope for others and they have been great.
Back On topic: Mobil Super 5000 is on par or better than any major competitor as far as a quality goes for conventional. It is a great oil. If you are going to use the extra money for a higher end filter than I would seriously consider leaving it on for 2 3k OCI's. No need to change a good filter out.

ottotheclown · Jul 9, 2013

You listed Mobil Clean which is not made anymore. It is now Mobil 5000 with no moly. It does have the cheaper version of moly sort of,

Titanium.Google PQIA for the 2013 listings of add packs.
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Both Mobil 5000 and SuperTech are good oils. I give the Mobil product a slight edge due to the moly (155 versus 44). Have regularly used both products in customers' vehicles over the years without complaint.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/mobil5000labelrevnew.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/May 2013/supertech.htm

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