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Mobil 1 ESP 0w-30 now meets SQ engine test requirements
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Mobil 1 Advance Fuel Economy just came out with this same dark green label replacing the old grassy light green. I was at Walmart today, but didn't take a picture. So that makes me think something in the formulation of Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy has been changed.
No API donut and only meets or exceeds, no certifications? Odd.
Not odd.
It meets or exceeds the engine test requirements.
But, it does not meet the bench test requirements because it exceeds the SQ limit for ZDDP.
Too much of a wear reducing additive. The horror.
New look, same great taste!
I’m not convinced that the color of the label changes the formula.
Regarding the food goods (FDA, I guess), if a manufacturer changes some of the ingredients of a current product or a medicine, they also need to change its packaging. That tells the customers that something is new. That's is in the food industry, but it may apply to oils too.
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Could be. But, I think oil companies are changing their labeling due to SQ now being a thing. And, if they’re already doing that, it’s not a bad time to update/refresh/modernize the labeling on their products.
Also, I’m not sure if this is accurate, but I have read in a few places that the 4-digit number after the lot # on a Mobil 1 bottle is the code for that specific formula.
If that is the case, the new bottle in my original post has a “formula code” of 6925 which is the same as the previously labeled version that I bought for my next oil change.
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I should shoot an email over to Mobil and ask if this is actually true.
It doesn't list a single certification, to me that's odd. What's next? They are gonna write 'identifies itself as...' and long list of 'genders'?
It's odd only to you because you don't know oil specification/certifications. The oil is rated ACEA C3 and has approvals by Mercedes-Benz, VW, and Porsche that are very stringent approvals. Those are much stringent than your API donut. It's an oil designed for the Euro market. Nobody cares about API over there. People only care the oil to cover their car manufacturer requirements that are listed on the bottle.
https://www.valvolineglobal.com/en-ksa/understanding-oil-standards-acea-specifications/
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Ok, maybe not certifications but approvals, none on the back of the bottle according to the pix.
Personally, at least with my cars that require only API SM oil, I fancy oils that are C2/C3, VW 504/507 and MB 229.52.
Personally, at least with my cars that require only API SM oil, I fancy oils that are C2/C3, VW 504/507 and MB 229.52.
It has both of the manufacturer approvals you listed.
Then you’ve come to the right place.
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May want to look again, specifically says "Has the following builder approvals" and then lists 229.51/229.52, VS 504/507 and Porsche C30.
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Exxon/Mobil is always very punctual with specifications vs. approvals. No oil blender is that good in that. Perhaps Motul.
My tired eyes didn't want to see it, now I do .. LOL
For the approvals, they need to limit how much Phosphorus goes into the cats, which in a simplified manner, a function of how much oil gets burned (volatility) and amount of Phosphorus in that oil that is burned
API puts a high(er) limit on the volatility, and limita Phosphorus more strictly.
ACEA limits volatility more strictly, and in return more lenient towards phosphorus.
On a positive note, I finally got my Mobil 1 rebate cheque on Tue, it took a few months for it to come, I thought I was SOL.
Great oil !
They updated the PDS. They now claim 12k/1yr.
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-esp-0w-30
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-esp-0w-30
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Interestingly, that claim is for all four flavors of ESP oils.
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