Mobil 1 better cleaner than AutoRx?

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Originally Posted By: deven
See the reason why people are afraid of Seafoam is because when you first put it in the crankcase and fuel, there is visible white/black smoke that billows out of the exhaust and you have to be carful because if there is a cop there he can actually impound your vehicle(it has happened to us a few times)and people automatically think that lots of smoke from the exhaust is a bad thing, but if its due to Seafoam it means its WORKING. I definately am a believer of the product and its let us down maybe 9-10 times since 2003. Just my opinion.


How did we get from using ARX/Seafoam in the oil to using Seafoam in the intake manifold and gasoline?
 
Originally Posted By: deven

Kinda, I had used A-Rx in engines that we would use a scope with a tiny camera hich is used to diagnose the problem if any. When we found engines with sludge issues, we would use A-Rx and follow the direction per website and then either use the scope again or tore down the engine to see the results. We would then use Seafoam we would scope it again and if there was visible difference we would not tear down the engine. I am hardly at the shop as I have a full time job but the mechanics that work there have always used Seafoam. Being stubborn and have had heard great things about A-Rx and equally bad things about Seafoam I didn't want to use it because with any profession you have to be carful with litigation and legal issues. Well using A-Rx atleast 20 or more times and with poor results my mechanics talked me into carrying Seafoam and we have not looked back. See the reason why people are afraid of Seafoam is because when you first put it in the crankcase and fuel, there is visible white/black smoke that billows out of the exhaust and you have to be carful because if there is a cop there he can actually impound your vehicle(it has happened to us a few times)and people automatically think that lots of smoke from the exhaust is a bad thing, but if its due to Seafoam it means its WORKING. I definately am a believer of the product and its let us down maybe 9-10 times since 2003. Just my opinion.

Deven


"20 cars with tearing down, still using something that does not work?"

You know the def'n of insanity:
doing the same thing all the time and expecting different results.

I would not use it after 1 or 2, if I found out it does not work.

Then again, you said "just my opinion". So the 20 cars are real experience or opinion. English is my 2nd language but "real experience" is NOT "opinion". May be my understanding of english is so gullible.
 
Could it be he is/was a mechanic or shop owner and his customers wanted to try A-Rx? Or he bought a bunch of it, and sold the treatment to his customers? Later the engines were torn down? Just thinking out loud here.
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I had to check this 20 car senario out with Frank. According to Frank, the largest order ever shipped to Massachusetts was for 6 bottles. Frank doesn't post here anymore, but if you want the straight scoup on anything ARX, just email him. You know where to find him.

There is a board over there as well. At least those folks have used ARX.
 
Originally Posted By: sprintman
Be aware no record from RX folks of this individual buying a single bottle of RX let alone 20. You work it out.


Hmm, somehow that wouldn't surprise me.
 
Originally Posted By: Rick20
I had to check this 20 car senario out with Frank. According to Frank, the largest order ever shipped to Massachusetts was for 6 bottles. Frank doesn't post here anymore, but if you want the straight scoup on anything ARX, just email him. You know where to find him.

There is a board over there as well. At least those folks have used ARX.


Yup I dug myself a big hole and yes I think BITOG guys are dumb that is why I have been here since 2005. I make no bones about the fact that I am not a mechanic. But I do supervise my business so I DONT lose money or I don't waste money. When I have employed or still employ 14 mechanics so far and they all tell me it doesn't do squat, I'll believe them and at the same time save my customers some $$, I am all for it. I came to BITOG because I wanted to be educated about engine oil which even my own mechanics dont understand why. When I do my oil change at the shop and sample it for UOA's, they tell me it's a waste of money. I tell them that I do it because it has become a hobby. Ask Frank how many he has sold in Rhode Island because my shop is in Rhode Island but I live in Mass, North Attleboro to be exact. FYI, When I said 20 engines I don't mean 20 straight times. I am talking in a span of 2-3 years. The reason why I wanted to tear down the engines was to prove to my mechanics that A-Rx does really work. Guess what, I was proven wrong and there was very little cleaning in most engines. To stay in business you have to figure out what works and what doesn'tand the only way you can do that is by seeing with your own two eyes the results. The proof is in the pudding. Today I actually called around mechanics and shop owners around where I work and NOT one person had even heard about A-Rx. I wonder how he stays in business to be honest. Maybe its the BITOG crew that keeps in business because I know the real mechanics who don't even know what is in a motor oil or its anti-wear properties don't use it or never heard of it. I am done with this thread. Peace.
 
Originally Posted By: sprintman
Be aware no record from RX folks of this individual buying a single bottle of RX let alone 20. You work it out.


Where is your proof? And Frank's word doesn't count. Any intelligent businessperson will lie thru their teeth because someone is bad mouthing their product. If you can provide concrete proof than you can call me a liar. You just lost all respect in my eyes. (Nationalistic rant removed)
 
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I will put it this way, IF frank has only sold 6 in the whole state of Massachusetts and he's been in business how long? What does that tell you about the product. If that is not proof than I dont know what is!!!!! It doesnt take a math whiz to figure that out. You just proved my point for me. Now I am definately out.
 
A) Your mechanics don't appear to be people whose opinions I would give any weight to

B) Who said it was 6 total? Nobody. They said the largest single order was 6 bottles.
 
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: sprintman
Be aware no record from RX folks of this individual buying a single bottle of RX let alone 20. You work it out.


Where is your proof? And Frank's word doesn't count. Any intelligent businessperson will lie thru their teeth because someone is bad mouthing their product. If you can provide concrete proof than you can call me a liar. You just lost all respect in my eyes. (deletia)


Post your AutoRX invoice...
 
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Still no info on the 20 engines? So easy to make up stuff like this and you got caught out bigtime mate. Oh and send your invoice to Frank for the 20 bottles so you can get your money back. Moneyback guarantee with every bottle. Goodbye and good riddance!
 
Originally Posted By: deven
FYI, When I said 20 engines I don't mean 20 straight times. I am talking in a span of 2-3 years. The reason why I wanted to tear down the engines was to prove to my mechanics that A-Rx does really work. Guess what, I was proven wrong and there was very little cleaning in most engines.

Today I actually called around mechanics and shop owners around where I work and NOT one person had even heard about A-Rx. I wonder how he stays in business to be honest.


Why would it matter if it was 20 straight engines or spread out over 2-3 years? You said 20 engines to try to impress us and it backfired on you when we called you out.

And why would shop owners care about a gentle cleaner that takes time like ARX? They're in the business to make money and quick flushes that can be done while the customer is sitting there make them money.
 
If I were a garage owner, I would utilize ARX to get the customer back on schedule for a rinse phase. Then a maintenance dose, etc. I would think this would be a better aproach than trying to do a shock dose of solvent and sending the customer off on their merry way, hoping for the best. I guess that a little customer relations would be too much to ask for.
 
If Mobil 1 HM oil can really clean up an engine better than Auto-RX than that is great! I like Auto-RX and use it and Auto-RX seemed to stop a seal leak in a car I used to own. But if you can clean up an engine just by using a certain brand of motor oil well that saves money!

I guess I will try Mobil 1 HM (5W30) after I get done cleaning my engine with Auto-RX and with the rinse phase. Maybe the engine will really be clean then!

If Mobil 1 HM keeps an engine so clean why use any oil supplement or cleaner what so ever. Might as well just use oil and a good oil filter. And my engine is close to 75,000 miles anyway. It probably needs HM oil.
 
Originally Posted By: Rick20
If I were a garage owner, I would utilize ARX to get the customer back on schedule for a rinse phase. Then a maintenance dose, etc. I would think this would be a better aproach than trying to do a shock dose of solvent and sending the customer off on their merry way, hoping for the best. I guess that a little customer relations would be too much to ask for.


I agree. It would be a better approach but what incentive does the customer have to shorten their oil change interval and come back to the shop? Your average oil change customer wants to get in and get out until the next time they bother to come see you.
 
I don't see a motor at 75K as high mileage, unless it was totally neglected, which is not your case, I would conclude. I find it interesting that all of the advertizing hype from most oil companies have many people that they have stepped up their game. If they really have, then I would say its about time. Then again time will tell.
 
I am impressed buster with what you have found out. Somehow I find it hard to believe that Exxon/Mobil would tell flat out lies about the cleaning ability of Mobil 1 HM oil. It would be interesting if people here did some testing.

And again if a motor oil alone could clean up an engine that saves money. Why bother with any oil supplements at all if the oil alone could do a good enough cleaning.

And how does the cleaning ability of Mobil 1 HM compare with Pennzoil Platinum, Valvoline synthetic, etc.?
 
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