Mobil 1 better cleaner than AutoRx?

[es350]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Frank has been approached by a couple of big names. While I don't know the particulars, terms could not be reached as to what Frank thought his process patent was worth and what these big named outfits were willing to pay for it. End of story.


This is all speculation here.

 

[sprintman]

No it isn't. You have no idea do you?

 

[es350]

But I do buddy.

I know what I have read and called on for as long as you have been here..Too many loopholes on what is said and what is real.

Show me since I say it is all , 1000X to 1 you cant..

NOW, do not get me wrong since I like ARX; but, some things are "out there" ..Posted by their mods, same people over and over etc..I just know what I have read for about 4 years..

 

[sprintman]

Don't you love noobs who know everything?

 

[chevrofreak]

Originally Posted By: sprintman
Don't you love noobs who know everything?


We've been getting a lot of those lately.

 

[sprintman]

Can't help bad luck!

 

[greenaccord02]

Personally, I wouldn't pay $5 for a tanker full of it as well as the patents and I've been on here since back before ARX lost it's sponsorship so the 'noob' dismissal won't work.

There are plenty of other successful companies who are still site sponsors in good standing that I can support. Not the least of which is M1.

 

[sprintman]

RX didn't 'lose it's sponsorship' it withdrew it.

 

[chevrofreak]

Originally Posted By: sprintman
Can't help bad luck!


I think some of the luck is engineered.

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: sprintman
RX didn't 'lose it's sponsorship' it withdrew it.


Yeah, and I recall why. Unfortunately, the thread has been gutted of most of the posts...

I won't say much more than that as I do not want to get into the conflicts here. But I've certainly grown tired of "product X sucks! It's a solvent. Only Auto-RX can clean blah blah blah..."

And that's what it was about...

 

[VW_TDI_PD]

Man i was gone for awhile, wish i knew what happened with auto-rx...Im currently using it since i bought a new used car, who knows what the previous owner did...

 

[greenaccord02]

Originally Posted By: sprintman
RX didn't 'lose it's sponsorship' it withdrew it.


Yeah, like the guy who got called into the boss' office and didn't get fired, he resigned.

Obviously this is a situation we see differently. I've said before I wouldn't do this again and here I am. So I'm done, no hard feelings. Remember, it's not personal - it's BITOG. See ya'll in another thread.

 

[moribundman]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, I'm sure that they had it ..they just weren't willing to give enough of it up.


I guess it wasn't worth the expense. (Insert your favorite C3P0 quote, even if it doesn't make any sense in the context

).

 

[rkpatt]

LOL ! (It could easily be done by a good lab) .
Originally Posted By: sprintman
Every Tom **** and Harry has tried to reverse engineer RX including the Chinese govt. this has been common knowledge here for years. Use the search function.


Maybe he should consider selling it through retail distribution . Lower price more volume .

 

[Gary Allan]

A few have tried.



Frank's more than happy to have this in every PB, AA, Napa, AZ. The thing is ROI. How many people are going to buy a (even) $20 product without a ZMAX or Duralube infomercial campaign. The cost of producing those products was peanuts compared to the marketing and promotional costs. The big winners were the production outfits. The producer's costs were chump change.

Frank's costs in raw products and production costs (I know these figures) don't leave enough room for what chain stores require in terms of ROI for a product that takes up so much real estate on the shelf.

How much do you think an M1 or RP filter costs to produce over any other filter that runs down the line? Next to nothing in REAL costs. Some is consumed by the name brand rights ..but each step requires ROI that inflates the price to anywhere from 3X - 6X the production costs.

For some products there is no scale of production within the market that they're in to lower the price enough to compete with what the producer can sell it himself.

FP had to RAISE their retail price to individuals because they had NO ROOM to discount the product to bulk buyers.

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: buster
deven, I realize that but the point I'm making is it appears some oils that have great solvency like M1 will clean if used repeatedly.

AutoRx seems like a mixed bag. IMO.



1 bottle of Auto-RX is $26 + shipping. One 5 quart jug of Mobil-1 oil costs $22 at Walmart + gas and time to pick it up.

Hard choice to make.

 

[es350]

Originally Posted By: sprintman
Don't you love noobs who know everything?


Lets face it Spirtman of “all know-how”. LOL BITOG was founded on users “pushing” to know more and took very little postings as truth. They demanded facts and wanted to “see” it.

Maybe this forum, aka your post, is straying from the grassroots it once was? I know your posts suggests that. Example, remember when I think tom was his name posts Mobil 1 was only a group3..Did he just said it was, no. So before you insult users, think….

This is about all products here and not one. We users should demand more and more info on posts that suggest anything. That is what makes this forum better then most.

Peace out.

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: Loobed
Originally Posted By: buster
deven, I realize that but the point I'm making is it appears some oils that have great solvency like M1 will clean if used repeatedly.

AutoRx seems like a mixed bag. IMO.



1 bottle of Auto-RX is $26 + shipping. One 5 quart jug of Mobil-1 oil costs $22 at Walmart + gas and time to pick it up.

Hard choice to make.


That assumes that the user desires to use M1 as his mainstay lubricant ...and that it will perform the task desired. The user may not have a service that makes M1 economically sensible to use.

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: bmwtechguy
Auto-Rx works, period.




Not only does it clean the motor, but it also cleans the money from your wallet, and helps separate a fool from his money.

I would try A-RX if I could buy it at an auto-parts store for under $7, but I also tried Slick-50 for $9 a quart

 

[moribundman]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
How many people are going to buy a (even) $20 product without a ZMAX or Duralube infomercial campaign.

Aren't those products' advertising campaigns exclusively based on positive testimonials also?

Quote:
For some products there is no scale of production within the market that they're in to lower the price enough to compete with what the producer can sell it himself.

If the product is marketable to the masses, a large producer would be willing to shell out the required sum to buy out the originator/inventor. What makes a product unmarketable, if junk like Duralube can be sold successfully for years and years?