All the more reason to stay with Mobil ESP.Mobil 1 just updated SDS on May 13th, and PAO is reduced from 10-15%, to pretty much nothing
Also, looks like viscosity @ 100C is slightly down and pour point is no longer -50
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All the more reason to stay with Mobil ESP.Mobil 1 just updated SDS on May 13th, and PAO is reduced from 10-15%, to pretty much nothing
Also, looks like viscosity @ 100C is slightly down and pour point is no longer -50
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Correct.Understandable, I do think they should differentiate the Advanced clean better but we just don't know how or to what extent its cleaning capacity is.
I think you're right, things are changing quickly under the table I'm sure.Just because there is a change in formulation, does not mean that there is a change in performance.
Might be is response to the global oil supply situation.
Typically would agree, but it looks like the PAO was swapped for group II+. Not a good sign.Just because there is a change in formulation, does not mean that there is a change in performance.
True statement, but eliminating PAO seems to be driven by cost or shortage issues. The oil was just released, and they already tweaking it.Just because there is a change in formulation, does not mean that there is a change in performance.
Might be is response to the global oil supply situation.
Maybe PAO has more drawbacks and less advantages! Maybe the additive package with non-PAO is better!but eliminating PAO seems to be driven by cost or shortage issues.
Maybe PAO has more drawbacks and less advantages! Maybe the additive package with non-PAO is better!
That's what I was wondering earlier with my question. Apparently, there's no way to be certain.If I were to buy some for my next oil change in a few months, anything on the shelf at this point (or warehouse) would probably be the original stuff, right?
I haven't smelled Advanced Clean, but EP is not strong smelling oil. It's pretty mild to me.Advanced clean smells really mild and EP is a punch in the face strongest oil ive ever smelled, puts redline to shame (i am insane)
EP GF-7 25,000 mile label is super strong. The SP/GF-6 version was pretty mildI haven't smelled Advanced Clean, but EP is not strong smelling oil. It's pretty mild to me.
I wouldn't worry about it. Either one will be inferior to Valvoline Restore and Protect. So if you're not running that, dealer's choice.If I were to buy some for my next oil change in a few months, anything on the shelf at this point (or warehouse) would probably be the original stuff, right?
I haven't smelled the GF-7 version either.EP GF-7 25,000 mile label is super strong. The SP/GF-6 version was pretty mild
That's interesting. I wonder what changed to modify the smell so much.EP GF-7 25,000 mile label is super strong. The SP/GF-6 version was pretty mild
Mobil 1 just updated SDS on May 13th, and PAO is reduced from 10-15%, to pretty much nothing
Also, looks like viscosity @ 100C is slightly down and pour point is no longer -50
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