Ok once again. I thought people would be interested in how a 20 weight oil would perform with long intervals over a long period of time under a more agressive than average driver. 7 samples of 7K+ miles, 4 of over 9K+ miles, 85K miles on car.
New sample is on the right:
Code:
Date out: 3/13/03 6/21/03 11/29/03 11/29/03 5/1/04 1/28/05 7/4/05 8/6/06 1/21/07 10/13/07
Lab: OG OG OG Black Black Black Black Black Black Black
Brand: Chevron M1 M1 M1 M1 M1 M1 M1 M1 M1
Supreme
Weight: 10w30 5w30 5w30 5w30 0w20 0w20 0w20 5w20 5W20 5W20
Miles on unit: 10170 15056 22476 22476 30067 40257 49984 65663 74980 84400
Miles on oil: 5072 4886 7420 7420 7591 10190 9727 7086 9319 9420
Gallons: 188.4 182.3 277.1 277.1 284.9 386.4 335.5 265.1 349.0 344.0
Filter: Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda
Fram Fram Toyo-R Toyo-R Toyo-R Toyo-R Filtec Filtec Filtec Filtec
Make up: 0 0 1/3 1/3 1/4 675 ml 1 L 500 ml 1/2 3/4
Al- 8 5 3 3 3 2 2 2 3 3
Cr- 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0
Fe- 8 2 0 7 6 6 9 6 10 12
Cu- 15 5 6 5 3 6 5 5 5 8
Pb- 4 0 0 3 3 6 11 7 3 3
Sn- 0 0 0 1 3 0 2 1 0 1
Mo- - - - 76 82 53 89 83 83 78
Ni- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Mn- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ag- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ti- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
K- 5 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2
B- - - - 135 149 90 141 55 64 53
Si- 40 15 14 10 9 9 11 10 13 11
Na- 10 11 17 8 8 5 7 6 9 8
Ca- - - - 3517 2666 2553 2802 2342 2243 2522
Mg- - - - 18 22 11 20 15 14 18
P- - - - 798 778 602 719 669 628 677
Zn- - - - 894 929 752 865 793 734 779
Ba- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sus@210 - - - 61.0 57.7 58.3 58.3 53.3 55.9 51.6
Flashpoint - - - 385 445 445 435 420 395 390
Fuel -
Glycol- none none none 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
water -
Insolubles - - - 0.2 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.3
Oxidation - 6.3 10.8 13.5 - - - - - - -
Visc@100- 13.7 13.0 13.3 - - - - - - -
Nitration - 4.3 4.9 5.3 - - - - - - -
Sae-
TBN 4.0 5.8 5.5 4.3 5.5 - 3.4 3.9
OG=Oil Guard/MTM Black=Blackstone
I would consider the driving that I did on this OCI as very diverse. I had a few 350+ miles trips, 650 mile trip, daily
As seems to be normal, I am very happy with these results and plan to continue at 10K intervals. I think it would be pretty hard to get better results. A little concern on Fe however. Any thoughts?
New sample is on the right:
Code:
Date out: 3/13/03 6/21/03 11/29/03 11/29/03 5/1/04 1/28/05 7/4/05 8/6/06 1/21/07 10/13/07
Lab: OG OG OG Black Black Black Black Black Black Black
Brand: Chevron M1 M1 M1 M1 M1 M1 M1 M1 M1
Supreme
Weight: 10w30 5w30 5w30 5w30 0w20 0w20 0w20 5w20 5W20 5W20
Miles on unit: 10170 15056 22476 22476 30067 40257 49984 65663 74980 84400
Miles on oil: 5072 4886 7420 7420 7591 10190 9727 7086 9319 9420
Gallons: 188.4 182.3 277.1 277.1 284.9 386.4 335.5 265.1 349.0 344.0
Filter: Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda Honda
Fram Fram Toyo-R Toyo-R Toyo-R Toyo-R Filtec Filtec Filtec Filtec
Make up: 0 0 1/3 1/3 1/4 675 ml 1 L 500 ml 1/2 3/4
Al- 8 5 3 3 3 2 2 2 3 3
Cr- 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0
Fe- 8 2 0 7 6 6 9 6 10 12
Cu- 15 5 6 5 3 6 5 5 5 8
Pb- 4 0 0 3 3 6 11 7 3 3
Sn- 0 0 0 1 3 0 2 1 0 1
Mo- - - - 76 82 53 89 83 83 78
Ni- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Mn- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ag- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ti- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
K- 5 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2
B- - - - 135 149 90 141 55 64 53
Si- 40 15 14 10 9 9 11 10 13 11
Na- 10 11 17 8 8 5 7 6 9 8
Ca- - - - 3517 2666 2553 2802 2342 2243 2522
Mg- - - - 18 22 11 20 15 14 18
P- - - - 798 778 602 719 669 628 677
Zn- - - - 894 929 752 865 793 734 779
Ba- - - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sus@210 - - - 61.0 57.7 58.3 58.3 53.3 55.9 51.6
Flashpoint - - - 385 445 445 435 420 395 390
Fuel -
Glycol- none none none 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
water -
Insolubles - - - 0.2 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.3
Oxidation - 6.3 10.8 13.5 - - - - - - -
Visc@100- 13.7 13.0 13.3 - - - - - - -
Nitration - 4.3 4.9 5.3 - - - - - - -
Sae-
TBN 4.0 5.8 5.5 4.3 5.5 - 3.4 3.9
OG=Oil Guard/MTM Black=Blackstone
I would consider the driving that I did on this OCI as very diverse. I had a few 350+ miles trips, 650 mile trip, daily
As seems to be normal, I am very happy with these results and plan to continue at 10K intervals. I think it would be pretty hard to get better results. A little concern on Fe however. Any thoughts?