Mobil 1 0w20

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Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Being a new car I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the OEM Honda 0W-20 which is actually more suitable than Mobil 1 0W-20.

Enough. Prove this.

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
. . . The other Japanese OEM 0W-20 oils such as the Mobil made TGMO 0W-20 and the new Mazda High Moly 0W-20 I would choose over Mobil 1 price notwithstanding.

Absolutely, positively, catagorically unnecessary for the OP's Accord.
 
Originally Posted By: RN89
My Accord is already as smooth as glass so not sure if any oil will make a difference, but just noticed that it was on rollback at Walmart. $22 for a 5 is not a bad deal.


Oil selection sure makes a difference in the 2.4L in our Honda. Mobil 1 0W-20 has been, by a significant margin, the smoothest and quietest 0W-20 I've used in it. I've also used Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0W-20 and Pennzoil Platinum 0w20 and weren't happy with either one of those in our K24. Mobil 1 seems to run the best in it. I have Mobil 1 0w30 in it now, but will go back to Mobil 1 0W-20 at the next oil change. With the excellent value that is Mobil 1 ($22 at Walmart), I can't find a reason in the world to use anything else...especially if you're tied to 0W-20 as you are in a new model.
 
I've also got a '13 Accord (EX 6MT); mine has 17,000 miles on it.

I changed FF at 10,XXX (OLM = 15%) to Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20 and Filtech/Honda filter. Car runs great, in fact my computer is showing 35mpg average over the 7,XXX miles on this OCI.

I've got a Blackstone kit on my desk for this next oil change which will be sometime in June at 10,XXX miles. I'll be sure to post the report so we can look at wear, TBN and fuel dilution.
 
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I'm not saying one is better than the other. I've personally used Kendall and seen the liquid titanium show up in used oil analysis 2 oil changes later so this tells me titanium does bond to metal (which provides protection) plus Kendall is better priced at least thru my source. Amsoil is what I use now and I like the specs better and my used oil analysis showed a nice run with amsoil.
 
Originally Posted By: Hounds
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Being a new car I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the OEM Honda 0W-20 which is actually more suitable than Mobil 1 0W-20.

Enough. Prove this.

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
. . . The other Japanese OEM 0W-20 oils such as the Mobil made TGMO 0W-20 and the new Mazda High Moly 0W-20 I would choose over Mobil 1 price notwithstanding.

Absolutely, positively, catagorically unnecessary for the OP's Accord.


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And here we go again...
 
Just change my oil on Sonata Limited 2009

OUT: Mobil 5W30

In: CATERHAM blend.

On my way to get a used oil analysis on CATERHAM blend from Sonata GL-14000km run.
 
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: rcbc96
That's the only one mobil makes. However, there are several other brands of 0w20 that's as good or better.
Kendall, Pennzoil, Amsoil, Redline, Motul, etc.

I have personally used Kendall and Amsoil.


How do you know they are better? Many 100s of Ks of using these oils in your engines, long OCIs, many years of experience?


Well for one he's actually done a used oil analysis....
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Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: RN89
My Accord is already as smooth as glass so not sure if any oil will make a difference, but just noticed that it was on rollback at Walmart. $22 for a 5 is not a bad deal.


Oil selection sure makes a difference in the 2.4L in our Honda. Mobil 1 0W-20 has been, by a significant margin, the smoothest and quietest 0W-20 I've used in it. I've also used Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0W-20 and Pennzoil Platinum 0w20 and weren't happy with either one of those in our K24. Mobil 1 seems to run the best in it. I have Mobil 1 0w30 in it now, but will go back to Mobil 1 0W-20 at the next oil change. With the excellent value that is Mobil 1 ($22 at Walmart), I can't find a reason in the world to use anything else...especially if you're tied to 0W-20 as you are in a new model.


Were the Pennzoil Platinum and Quaker State Ultimate Durability louder or did they just not give as good performance? My Accord has the new DI 4cyl so do you think that will make a difference in anything? I know fuel dilution could possibly be an issue, so will be watching that. Also, I read that Honda has remedied the carbon deposit buildup problem that other DI motors have problems with. Any truth that you know of?

Originally Posted By: oily boyd
I've also got a '13 Accord (EX 6MT); mine has 17,000 miles on it.

I changed FF at 10,XXX (OLM = 15%) to Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20 and Filtech/Honda filter. Car runs great, in fact my computer is showing 35mpg average over the 7,XXX miles on this OCI.

I've got a Blackstone kit on my desk for this next oil change which will be sometime in June at 10,XXX miles. I'll be sure to post the report so we can look at wear, TBN and fuel dilution.


Looking forward to seeing how that UAO turns out! I really like this engine so far. It's pretty quick (in family car terms) and last week on a 700 mile road trip I averaged 36.2 mpg.



Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Being a new car I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the OEM Honda 0W-20 which is actually more suitable than Mobil 1 0W-20.
Also long drains are not something you'd want to consider while under warranty.
The other Japanese OEM 0W-20 oils such as the Mobil made TGMO 0W-20 and the new Mazda High Moly 0W-20 I would choose over Mobil 1 price notwithstanding.


Please excuse my ignorance, but is the OEM Honda 0w-20 synthetic? I will be following the MM on my Honda which should probably put me around 6k-8k miles per oil change.
 
Originally Posted By: cp3
Originally Posted By: Hounds
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Being a new car I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the OEM Honda 0W-20 which is actually more suitable than Mobil 1 0W-20.

Enough. Prove this.

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
. . . The other Japanese OEM 0W-20 oils such as the Mobil made TGMO 0W-20 and the new Mazda High Moly 0W-20 I would choose over Mobil 1 price notwithstanding.

Absolutely, positively, catagorically unnecessary for the OP's Accord.


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Yes it is odd position to take. The OEM oil has nothing to prove, it's the OEM oil after all.
Mobil 1 0W-20 is an after market oil that happens to be heavier than the OEM oil and therefore heavier than necessary. Is it a big deal? No.
I'm just pointing out the facts here.
 
Originally Posted By: RN89
Were the Pennzoil Platinum and Quaker State Ultimate Durability louder or did they just not give as good performance? My Accord has the new DI 4cyl so do you think that will make a difference in anything?


There was no perceived difference in performance or fuel economy, but the Pennzoil Platinum and Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0W-20 were much louder than the Mobil 1 0W-20 on cold starts. The Mobil 1 is just stone quiet all the time...no valvetrain or piston slap noise to speak of. The other oils both allowed much more mechanical noise to come through. What the actual cause is, I don't know. I just know I don't use those oils anymore in our K24.

The J35 in our Acura is always quiet, no matter what oil is used.
 
Originally Posted By: RN89
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd

CATERHAM said:
Being a new car I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the OEM Honda 0W-20 which is actually more suitable than Mobil 1 0W-20.
Also long drains are not something you'd want to consider while under warranty.
The other Japanese OEM 0W-20 oils such as the Mobil made TGMO 0W-20 and the new Mazda High Moly 0W-20 I would choose over Mobil 1 price notwithstanding.


Please excuse my ignorance, but is the OEM Honda 0w-20 synthetic? I will be following the MM on my Honda which should probably put me around 6k-8k miles per oil change.

99% of 0W oils are fully synthetic.
Honda USA offers two 0W-20 versions, one's semi-syn the other full syn' although both oils appear to be identical in VOA.
 
Originally Posted By: rcbc96
I'm not saying one is better than the other. I've personally used Kendall and seen the liquid titanium show up in used oil analysis 2 oil changes later so this tells me titanium does bond to metal (which provides protection) plus Kendall is better priced at least thru my source. Amsoil is what I use now and I like the specs better and my used oil analysis showed a nice run with amsoil.


I've seen sodium show up in used oil analysis one or two oil changes later. I'm guessing you're going to tell me that is bonded to the metal as well
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Originally Posted By: Capa
Originally Posted By: rcbc96
I'm not saying one is better than the other. I've personally used Kendall and seen the liquid titanium show up in used oil analysis 2 oil changes later so this tells me titanium does bond to metal (which provides protection) plus Kendall is better priced at least thru my source. Amsoil is what I use now and I like the specs better and my used oil analysis showed a nice run with amsoil.


I've seen sodium show up in used oil analysis one or two oil changes later. I'm guessing you're going to tell me that is bonded to the metal as well
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Considering that in some cases up to 1/2 qt or more oil remains from the previous fill I'm not surprised at all. Seems you weren't either.
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