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Mobil-1 0W-40, new formula?
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Originally Posted By: Trav
It does seem to have changed. Low temp performance seems to have taken a hit.
From Mobil..
Quote:
With the exception of Germany, this reformulation will be invisible to
consumers and B2B customers
There will be no proactive customer communication relating to this
reformulation. However, an internal briefing document and Q&A has
been prepared to allow sales to respond in the unlikely event of a
customer question.
Due to the unique definition of synthetic in Germany (Synthetic = 100%
PAO) this reformulation is visible to the consumer and B2B customers.
• A more proactive communication is being prepared for German use
In Germany and AFAIK the US and Canada it was a full synthetic oil now its a blend.
If I had of know that I most certainly wouldn't have purchased it!
Might consider another oil like the Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 or actually reconsider Amsoil 4 stroke oil?
It does seem to have changed. Low temp performance seems to have taken a hit.
From Mobil..
Quote:
With the exception of Germany, this reformulation will be invisible to
consumers and B2B customers
There will be no proactive customer communication relating to this
reformulation. However, an internal briefing document and Q&A has
been prepared to allow sales to respond in the unlikely event of a
customer question.
Due to the unique definition of synthetic in Germany (Synthetic = 100%
PAO) this reformulation is visible to the consumer and B2B customers.
• A more proactive communication is being prepared for German use
In Germany and AFAIK the US and Canada it was a full synthetic oil now its a blend.
If I had of know that I most certainly wouldn't have purchased it!
Might consider another oil like the Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 or actually reconsider Amsoil 4 stroke oil?
Originally Posted By: irv
..................Anyways, this is my reply from Mobil today..................
"The pour point is a static test and it can vary from formulation to
formulation, pouring of the motor oil is not important unless you just
want to be outside in -50F weather and watch the oil pour out of the
bottle onto the ground.........................Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at 1-800-ASK-MOBIL
I agree with ExxonMobil that pour point is not an important or very informative spec. So why do they (and other oil companies) even bother publishing it? The MRV and CCS specs are more informative.
..................Anyways, this is my reply from Mobil today..................
"The pour point is a static test and it can vary from formulation to
formulation, pouring of the motor oil is not important unless you just
want to be outside in -50F weather and watch the oil pour out of the
bottle onto the ground.........................Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at 1-800-ASK-MOBIL
I agree with ExxonMobil that pour point is not an important or very informative spec. So why do they (and other oil companies) even bother publishing it? The MRV and CCS specs are more informative.
I don't know either.
In fact PP as the OP has learned is a very misleading spec' best ignored and that's the reason the CCS and MRV spec's were developed.
In fact PP as the OP has learned is a very misleading spec' best ignored and that's the reason the CCS and MRV spec's were developed.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I don't know either.
In fact PP as the OP has learned is a very misleading spec' best ignored and that's the reason the CCS and MRV spec's were developed.
That is all very well but what are 99% of the population suppose to believe?
Like I stated earlier, I seen the -40 after the fact, and it's nobody's fault but mine I didn't look at the rating in store but I bet most don't, especially if they are purchasing an oil they have for quite some time.
So all this aside, what are your thoughts on it's pour point? Like I also stated earlier, I will be running this oil in my sled and with what the Mobil dude said, is it still a good choice?
Any recent used oil analysis with this new blend, and has it been proven that it is no longer as synthetic as it once was? Has it been cheapened?
Thanks
I don't know either.
In fact PP as the OP has learned is a very misleading spec' best ignored and that's the reason the CCS and MRV spec's were developed.
That is all very well but what are 99% of the population suppose to believe?
Like I stated earlier, I seen the -40 after the fact, and it's nobody's fault but mine I didn't look at the rating in store but I bet most don't, especially if they are purchasing an oil they have for quite some time.
So all this aside, what are your thoughts on it's pour point? Like I also stated earlier, I will be running this oil in my sled and with what the Mobil dude said, is it still a good choice?
Any recent used oil analysis with this new blend, and has it been proven that it is no longer as synthetic as it once was? Has it been cheapened?
Thanks
I'd go with Mobil Delvac Elite 222 0W-30.
It can be had from the closest Imperial Oil depot to you.
It can be had from the closest Imperial Oil depot to you.
Anyone in Canada still have any of the older API SM,SL/CF bottles?
Wouldn't mind seeing a pic of the back..
Wouldn't mind seeing a pic of the back..
I do, both SM and SL.
Both give the PP at -54C.
Both give the PP at -54C.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I'd go with Mobil Delvac Elite 222 0W-30.
It can be had from the closest Imperial Oil depot to you.
How are people supposed to obtain this oil in the US? I've looked around and see no one selling it in the states. No one Ebay even.
I'd go with Mobil Delvac Elite 222 0W-30.
It can be had from the closest Imperial Oil depot to you.
How are people supposed to obtain this oil in the US? I've looked around and see no one selling it in the states. No one Ebay even.
What is this, the second annual resurrection of this thread?
Originally Posted By: Garak
What is this, the second annual resurrection of this thread?
Part of the BITOG tradition.
What is this, the second annual resurrection of this thread?
Part of the BITOG tradition.
Originally Posted By: Darkfire
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I'd go with Mobil Delvac Elite 222 0W-30.
It can be had from the closest Imperial Oil depot to you.
How are people supposed to obtain this oil in the US? I've looked around and see no one selling it in the states. No one Ebay even.
Your only hope is to cross that border (at least you are close enough for it to not be a prohibitive adventure)!
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I'd go with Mobil Delvac Elite 222 0W-30.
It can be had from the closest Imperial Oil depot to you.
How are people supposed to obtain this oil in the US? I've looked around and see no one selling it in the states. No one Ebay even.
Your only hope is to cross that border (at least you are close enough for it to not be a prohibitive adventure)!
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