MMO - I'm a believer!

[demarpaint]

It would be a personal thing. I take very good care of my vehicles. I also believe that engines that see the kind of use mine do, NY severe service stop and go driving will eventually get dirty. If I lived where I drove 50 miles a day to and from work under perfect conditions my thinking might be different.

MMO cleans, and cleans well, if you look at UOA reports it seems to do well as an add to oil, however it does reduce TBN. That doesn't matter to me because I will not do extended OCI's.

I do not add MMO at every oil change anymore. But I do run it for a full OCI during the winter in 2 vehicles. I also use it as top up oil in my Aerostar, and have been know to add a pint 1000 miles before changing my oil if I didn't run the full qt. I'll also skip it and try other products from time to time. I'm using Lubro Moly in one of my vehicles at the moment so I didn't add any MMO.

I mentioned a college buddy a while back who used MMO in a Toyota at every OCI. 200,000 + miles later I helped him change a VC gasket, the engine was spotless. His father had been using MMO since probably the late 1940's, early 1950's, and passed on the tradition to him. A qt at every OCI for this guy, still till this day, I met him in the 1970s.

 

[MMasz]

My local mechanic (had his shop since 1968) told me that most engine related problems he sees in his shop are the result of bad gas. He also recommends only top teir gas to help minimize problems.

The folks who say there's no need for treatments are unaware that even though today's gas may be formulated well, the gas is still subject to contamination in the process of being transported in pipelines, tanker trucks and within the storage tanks of the gas stations. Add in the effects of ethanol and today's gas isn't really as good as it would seem.

Given that, he also recommends regular fuel filter changes and periodic gas treatment- Techron, MMO, BG44K, Redline Si-1.

I use MMO on a regular basis on my gas (and oil before a change) and my engine stays strong however, I'm think of trying some TC-3W to the gas and see how it compares to MMO

 

[mechtech2]

I wonder why people do not appreciate cleaners in modern gas, when cleaners are a highly valued addition to top tier fuel?
Do we think they are enough all of the time?
I think a good dose of a Techron type cleaner in the tank once or twice a year is a good thing.
so that is what I do. Once or twice a year run a tank of a good cleaner, and use MMO or 2 stroke oil the rest of the time.

[Yes, I know 2 stroke oil is not a cleaner at all, but it makes my cars run the best]

 

[NLeo]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
It would be a personal thing. I take very good care of my vehicles. I also believe that engines that see the kind of use mine do, NY severe service stop and go driving will eventually get dirty. If I lived where I drove 50 miles a day to and from work under perfect conditions my thinking might be different.

MMO cleans, and cleans well, if you look at UOA reports it seems to do well as an add to oil, however it does reduce TBN. That doesn't matter to me because I will not do extended OCI's.

I do not add MMO at every oil change anymore. But I do run it for a full OCI during the winter in 2 vehicles. I also use it as top up oil in my Aerostar, and have been know to add a pint 1000 miles before changing my oil if I didn't run the full qt. I'll also skip it and try other products from time to time. I'm using Lubro Moly in one of my vehicles at the moment so I didn't add any MMO.

I mentioned a college buddy a while back who used MMO in a Toyota at every OCI. 200,000 + miles later I helped him change a VC gasket, the engine was spotless. His father had been using MMO since probably the late 1940's, early 1950's, and passed on the tradition to him. A qt at every OCI for this guy, still till this day, I met him in the 1970s.


Thanks. Ill drop a pint in 300 more miles.

And this may be off topic a little but my gas meter is kind of off and Im trying to figure out a way to fix the problem. Earlier today the needle was just a bit above the "E" line and when I parked and let the car run for a about a minute or two it went up to a bit below the quarter line. Which measurement is more correct? I already used two bottles of techron already and I thought that would fix the problem. But I read on one of these threads that its best to use techron while doing city driving. I put the car on the highway for about 10 minutes so maybe it had something to do with that however my car did run smoother anyhow. Will the frequent use of MMO help fix this?

 

[demarpaint]

I had a issue with a float hanging up in an old Ford I bought used. A few tanks of gas with MMO added to it resolved the problem for the few years I owned the car. Sometimes you get lucky give it a try.

I have no idea which reading on your gas gauge is more accurate though.

 

[Vikas]

Has anybody used both (not at the same time!) MMO and TC-W3? I found that Walmart TC-W3 gave me better results than MMO. Also TC-W3 is even cheaper.

What I do hate is the mechanix involved in putting the TC-W3 dosage in the tank. It smells horrible and leaves sticky residue all over. It is very problematic to use if done on long trips. Generally, I fill the tank while my way home and handle adding TC-W3 in my garage and keep the funnel etc in a ziplock bag in the garage. Only once I tried to do this on the road and I had leaky sticky mess in the trunk.

On the other hand, MMO smells nice and has consistency which is easy to handle. I have not tried MMO on the road but I suspect it would be lot more easier than Walmart TC-W3.

- Vikas

 

[MMasz]

I currently use MMO in my gas at every fill. After reading an extensive post on the LS1 website, I'm going to try TC-W3 for a few tankfuls and see what happens.

Does TC-W3 really smell that bad??

 

[bigmike]

I've used TC-W3 with MMO at the same time. Just lower the dosage of each.

By itself, TC-W3 has yielded better MPG in my applications.

 

[AuthorEditor]

Put the TC-W3 in an old Stabil bottle, which makes it very easy to dispense the couple of ounces needed. I carry the small Stabil bottle on my motorcycle and the big one in the trunk of my car. I can usually dispense without any spillage if I am careful.

 

[getnpsi]

You do not have to run your car to the gas light to get mileage. Heck it costs too much. Fill it up and just drive to half mark and fill to the click again. Record mileage and divide by the pump's gallons you put in. I think 10 half tanks is just as accurate as 5 full tanks, weeds out some errors although it biases you to be a better driver trying to beat last tank's numbers

 

[Scooter_man]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Has anybody used both (not at the same time!) MMO and TC-W3? I found that Walmart TC-W3 gave me better results than MMO. Also TC-W3 is even cheaper. - Vikas


I've used both and had about the same results (MPG) with either one. The only reason I prefer MMO for a UCL is because of the additional benefit of cleaning that it provides.

+1 on the old Sta-bil bottle, I use that method myself on the bike/scooters/etc. In the cars I use a plunger-type turkey baster (Walmart special) - works well, no mess.


Rob

 

[severach]

Originally Posted By: mechtech2
I wonder why people do not appreciate cleaners in modern gas, when cleaners are a highly valued addition to top tier fuel?

They assume that Big Business and Big Government are looking out for them and the amount that is mandated in gasoline is sufficient. It may well be in some places but assume that because it is where they are that it is everywhere.

 

[Benzadmiral]

I'm trying the stuff again at a lower dose this time, of 2 oz./10 gallons. For my 18-gallon tank, I think that works out to about 3.6 oz.

Certainly I'm seeing better mileage since I've been gassing up at a station that proclaims they have 100% gas, no ethanol. The increase partially offsets the hit I take from running the A/C so much while using ethanol gas.