Million Miles: what's your plan?

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Originally Posted By: Popinski
Let's say you could start fresh and your main goal was to reach 1,000,000 miles, or even more, What would you pick? NO DIESELS ALLOWED.


Well, that's just dumb. Why would anyone choose something besides a diesel?
 
I'm not quite sure why anyone would WANT to have their car last a million miles! I have 300,000 miles on my Mercury Mystique and I had 250,000 miles on the BMW 325 I owned before that, and by the time I get that kind of mileage on my cars, I'm thoroughly tired of them and ready for something new. Even at my rate of putting on 30,000 miles a year, to get a million miles would take 33 years, and I'm pretty sure I want to own more than ONE car in my lifetime! I want to start trading more OFTEN, and not keep my cars 10-15 years like I have been doing. So a million mile car? NO THANKS!
 
Originally Posted By: Beachboy
I'm not quite sure why anyone would WANT to have their car last a million miles! I have 300,000 miles on my Mercury Mystique and I had 250,000 miles on the BMW 325 I owned before that, and by the time I get that kind of mileage on my cars, I'm thoroughly tired of them and ready for something new. Even at my rate of putting on 30,000 miles a year, to get a million miles would take 33 years, and I'm pretty sure I want to own more than ONE car in my lifetime! I want to start trading more OFTEN, and not keep my cars 10-15 years like I have been doing. So a million mile car? NO THANKS!
I think that is because we have been conditioned to like "new shiny" things. It's a status symbol to others that shows how well we are doing and gives our ego a boost in a way. (Not picking on you, making a point for the group)

I look at a car as a tool to get me places and get jobs done and nothing more. The longer that "tool" is in service, the more money I have saved and can spend on things I want to and not a "tool" that I want.

If spending $20-$30K on a tool (Car) is what does it for you, then all the power to you and to each their own but I would rather keep that money and laugh (so to speak) when I'm retired at the people that can't retired because "Taxes are too high" and that think that "The government should give seniors a break".

Financially anyone can be sound but they need to choose to spend their money only when warranted and wisely.

Replacing a vehicle that is running and costing you minimal costs to keep it running (Even if it's an engine & transmission every 3-4 years) is far cheaper than buying a new vehicle because "you are tired of it" and one sure way to retire wealthy instead of "hoping to retire"

Just my $0.02 and the reason why I want whatever I can get out of my Truck and not just a million miles.
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Realistically, 500k is my goal in my current Volvo 240. I have no doubts that my current B230 engine can do it. But if a rebuildable 16v red block comes my way, its gettin' transplanted.

Originally Posted By: RTexasF
Drive the same car a million miles? Is this punishment for something?


Ok, maybe I am masochistic...but there's just something I get out of driving old RWD Volvos that I can't get with any other car. To me, it never gets old.
 
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Firstly, I would start with a good Buick ( a LeSaber if pre-owned or a Lucern if new), definitely something with the 3.8 motor.

Undercoat to prevent it from rusting out, regular wash/wax, LOF's with quality synthetics. Transmission cooler as a pre-caution to ensure the longevity of the transmission, synthetic transmission fluid.

Regularly scheduled maintenance (including all fluids flushed replaced in a timely manner). If I were aiming for 1 million miles, I would run Auto-Rx maintenance dose from the get-go.

Perhaps an engine block heater, if not already equipped.
 
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A very comfortable car I enjoy driving.

It would have to be manual transmission and handle/ride very well.

Reality is I get a severe itch around 7yrs or 150,000 miles to change up what I have.
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Beachboy
I'm not quite sure why anyone would WANT to have their car last a million miles! I have 300,000 miles on my Mercury Mystique and I had 250,000 miles on the BMW 325 I owned before that, and by the time I get that kind of mileage on my cars, I'm thoroughly tired of them and ready for something new. Even at my rate of putting on 30,000 miles a year, to get a million miles would take 33 years, and I'm pretty sure I want to own more than ONE car in my lifetime! I want to start trading more OFTEN, and not keep my cars 10-15 years like I have been doing. So a million mile car? NO THANKS!
I think that is because we have been conditioned to like "new shiny" things. It's a status symbol to others that shows how well we are doing and gives our ego a boost in a way. (Not picking on you, making a point for the group)

I look at a car as a tool to get me places and get jobs done and nothing more. The longer that "tool" is in service, the more money I have saved and can spend on things I want to and not a "tool" that I want.

If spending $20-$30K on a tool (Car) is what does it for you, then all the power to you and to each their own but I would rather keep that money and laugh (so to speak) when I'm retired at the people that can't retired because "Taxes are too high" and that think that "The government should give seniors a break".

Financially anyone can be sound but they need to choose to spend their money only when warranted and wisely.

Replacing a vehicle that is running and costing you minimal costs to keep it running (Even if it's an engine & transmission every 3-4 years) is far cheaper than buying a new vehicle because "you are tired of it" and one sure way to retire wealthy instead of "hoping to retire"

Just my $0.02 and the reason why I want whatever I can get out of my Truck and not just a million miles.
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Did you purchase your truck new and shiny or did you purchase a 10 year old vehicle with the intention of replacing the engine and transmission every 3-4 years?

By your logic wouldn't you be better off driving a cheap old beater, not using an expensive, boutique oil and run it forever?

Would you suggest that someones grandmother keep an older, unreliable vehicle rather than purchase a new one that will reliably get her to her destination? Assuming said grandmother doesn't want to spend a lot of time busting her knuckles wrenching on the old unreliable car?
 
Car: Brand New 2010 Honda Accord EX-L I-4

Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Transmission fluid: Honda ATF
Oil: Mobil 1 or Pennzoil Plat or Motorcraft 5W20
Oil Filter: SuperTech, Mobil 1, PureONE, Wix. Baldwin
Gasoline: Shell/BP/Texaco/Chevron/Exxon/Costco/Quick Trip
Spark Plugs: NGK
Fuel Filter: Honda/Wix/Baldwin
Air Filter: Wix/Napa/Carquest (all the same)
Spark Plug wires: Honda
Coolant: Honda
P/S, Brake, Clutch fluid: Honda PS, Any DOT 3 for brake
Tires: Michelin
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Beachboy
I'm not quite sure why anyone would WANT to have their car last a million miles! I have 300,000 miles on my Mercury Mystique and I had 250,000 miles on the BMW 325 I owned before that, and by the time I get that kind of mileage on my cars, I'm thoroughly tired of them and ready for something new. Even at my rate of putting on 30,000 miles a year, to get a million miles would take 33 years, and I'm pretty sure I want to own more than ONE car in my lifetime! I want to start trading more OFTEN, and not keep my cars 10-15 years like I have been doing. So a million mile car? NO THANKS!
I think that is because we have been conditioned to like "new shiny" things. It's a status symbol to others that shows how well we are doing and gives our ego a boost in a way. (Not picking on you, making a point for the group)

I look at a car as a tool to get me places and get jobs done and nothing more. The longer that "tool" is in service, the more money I have saved and can spend on things I want to and not a "tool" that I want.

If spending $20-$30K on a tool (Car) is what does it for you, then all the power to you and to each their own but I would rather keep that money and laugh (so to speak) when I'm retired at the people that can't retired because "Taxes are too high" and that think that "The government should give seniors a break".

Financially anyone can be sound but they need to choose to spend their money only when warranted and wisely.

Replacing a vehicle that is running and costing you minimal costs to keep it running (Even if it's an engine & transmission every 3-4 years) is far cheaper than buying a new vehicle because "you are tired of it" and one sure way to retire wealthy instead of "hoping to retire"

Just my $0.02 and the reason why I want whatever I can get out of my Truck and not just a million miles.
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Did you purchase your truck new and shiny or did you purchase a 10 year old vehicle with the intention of replacing the engine and transmission every 3-4 years?

By your logic wouldn't you be better off driving a cheap old beater, not using an expensive, boutique oil and run it forever?

Would you suggest that someones grandmother keep an older, unreliable vehicle rather than purchase a new one that will reliably get her to her destination? Assuming said grandmother doesn't want to spend a lot of time busting her knuckles wrenching on the old unreliable car?





I hit a deer with my old car and nearly died the wreck was so bad so I wanted something bigger. I'm doing a lot of miles for my job and need something reliable and wanted something new because I wouldn't be paying for it, the mileage my company pays me would. I also then would know the service history was impeccable because I look after my things and knew I could drive it 2-3 times the average owner could because of my TLC. So then I could pocket the mileage during that time with minimal upkeep.

This made a heck of a lot more sense than buying a used car, possibly having to take time off work to have it fixed or being without it because of someone elses history.

I also used Boutique oils because I choose to and because it is covered by my mileage and it's a hobby of mine. I feel that these "Boutique" oils are of superior quality than that of "Off the shelf" varieties and have UOA's to back it up for my application.

If I didn't have this job where I got mileage then I would be buying used cars and patching them up for as long and as cheaply as I can but the mileage affords me the flexibility at buying a new car, driving the heck out of it in miles and then getting a new one in 10 years with about 20-30 years of acutal mileage on it. (because I'm heavy on the miles)


I have done my home work.

As for older people, they are probably only going to see 1 or 2 new vehicles before they kick the bucket anyways and at that point if they followed my methodology as I described above they can certainly afford to "enjoy" their money on new vehicles at that point.

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There was 90 year old Florida woman posted on here not long ago with a 64 Mercury Comet with almost 600K miles on it...Looks like she has a good plan as she is still driving it.

After seeing her Mercury Comet with all that miles on it makes me think Synthetic oil is a waste of money...Oil back in the 60's was not even close to what it is now and look how long she has been driving it.

If I had knew where she lived I would ask her to come on this site.
 
Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
There was 90 year old Florida woman posted on here not long ago with a 64 Mercury Comet with almost 600K miles on it...Looks like she has a good plan as she is still driving it.

After seeing her Mercury Comet with all that miles on it makes me think Synthetic oil is a waste of money...Oil back in the 60's was even close to what it is now and look how long she held on to it.

If I had knew where she lived I would ask her to come on this site.
Engines back then were very big/heavy and built for abuse because lubricants aren't where they are today and because fuel economy wasn't that much of a concern.

Today's engines run much hotter and produce more horsepower per liter (or Cubic inch) and are lighter and need a lubricant that can stand up to the punishment.

Most cars will last a very long time on dino but they should last even longer or virtually forever with synthetic if the proper one is used.
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
There was 90 year old Florida woman posted on here not long ago with a 64 Mercury Comet with almost 600K miles on it...Looks like she has a good plan as she is still driving it.

After seeing her Mercury Comet with all that miles on it makes me think Synthetic oil is a waste of money...Oil back in the 60's was even close to what it is now and look how long she held on to it.

If I had knew where she lived I would ask her to come on this site.
Engines back then were very big/heavy and built for abuse because lubricants aren't where they are today and because fuel economy wasn't that much of a concern.

Today's engines run much hotter and produce more horsepower per liter (or Cubic inch) and are lighter and need a lubricant that can stand up to the punishment.

Most cars will last a very long time on dino but they should last even longer or virtually forever with synthetic if the proper one is used.
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Yes are correct on that...Think I will stick to my Motorcraft Synthetic after all.
 
It's like others have said and I have believed...

Using a quality synthetic even at a cost of $10 US /quart is still cheaper than the fuel you put in it if you work out the cost per mile.

$10 x 5 Quarts = $50
$15 - Amsoil EAO filter = $15

Total: $65 / 7500 miles (lets keep it conservative)

=$0.00867 / Mile x 300 miles (Average miles per tank)

=$2.60 / Tank of gas

Yet you put in what $40, $50, $60 to go 300 miles?

It's a non issue to use a premium synthetic because it is nowhere near the cost of fuel.

You will have put in $600/$750/$900 in fuel to go 7500 miles and yet the synthetic oil at $10/quart + one of the most expensive filters on the market only cost you $65.00 for that same 7500 miles!
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Now you can probably go 10K Miles on that oil, but I wanted to keep it conservative.

Now there is something to think about... We cheapen out on the oil because we want to save money, when it's the fuel costing us the fortune! Sad thing is Oil is the one thing we shouldn't cheapen out on. It's the lifeblood of your vehicle and does so much for such a little cost compared to things like Fuel!
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You do realize that somewhere around 450,000 - half a million miles you will need to get some new seats in your car?

My father had a '89 Chevy Astro van that lasted somewhere around 450,000. Early in its life the engine developed a hairline crack and over the next 10+ years that hairline crack grew. It eventually dripped oil everywhere, but everything else was going by ~450,000. His speedometer/odometer had quit working at 300,000 and he had it fixed, then it went again at 350,000 so he never had it looked at again. He just drove the same speed as everyone else.

His answer to the interior disintegrating? Beaded seats!
They really do work if you dont have Air Conditioning!
I know this from my 1983 Ford LTD that never had A/C.
 
Originally Posted By: RTexasF
Drive the same car a million miles? Is this punishment for something?


I would have no problem driving my Corvette for a million miles and would not get tired of it. I've had it for 5 years now, it had 32k on it back then and now has 109k on it, and I'm enjoying it just as much if not more now than I did when I first got it!

The highest mileage C5 Corvette I know of out there has over 400,000 miles on it (still on the original engine too)
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC
It's like others have said and I have believed...

Using a quality synthetic even at a cost of $10 US /quart is still cheaper than the fuel you put in it if you work out the cost per mile.

$10 x 5 Quarts = $50
$15 - Amsoil EAO filter = $15

Total: $65 / 7500 miles (lets keep it conservative)

=$0.00867 / Mile x 300 miles (Average miles per tank)

=$2.60 / Tank of gas

Yet you put in what $40, $50, $60 to go 300 miles?

It's a non issue to use a premium synthetic because it is nowhere near the cost of fuel.

You will have put in $600/$750/$900 in fuel to go 7500 miles and yet the synthetic oil at $10/quart + one of the most expensive filters on the market only cost you $65.00 for that same 7500 miles!
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Now you can probably go 10K Miles on that oil, but I wanted to keep it conservative.

Now there is something to think about... We cheapen out on the oil because we want to save money, when it's the fuel costing us the fortune! Sad thing is Oil is the one thing we shouldn't cheapen out on. It's the lifeblood of your vehicle and does so much for such a little cost compared to things like Fuel!
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I think I miss your logic!
I can't buy cheaper fuel, that is a cost I'm stuck with. (providing I use the most economical vehicle that meets my needs)
But I can save some money on the lubricants I use!*
*Assuming that the Lubes I use will keep the vehicle running until it rusts out, is totalled or gets so ugly I just want rid of it.
In most of the vehicles I have known in the last 20 years, the engine has outlasted the rest of the vehicle.
 
The problem with a "million mile" plan, is that there are unforseen variables, which one will have little control over.

1) Other users of the roads... mainly drunks and those who shouldn't ever possess a license, who can cut your plans short in just a few seconds.

2) Wild animals (deer, for one). An eight point buck can total a car out easily.

3) Rust. I lost an '87 Monte Carlo with a 305 to rust, closing in on 300k. The engine and transmission were fine, but the frame was gone behind the rear axle. The engine saw nothing but yellow bottle Pennzoil every 3-4k for most of its life.
 
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