Mighty M3614 cut open

[Hatsuwr]

Absolutely terrible.

Don't have much info on its usage. First oil/filter change by me on this vehicle.

On the bright side though, the uh... anti-bypass valve doesn't have ripples!

 

[ZeeOSix]

On the bright side though, the uh... anti-bypass valve doesn't have ripples!

LoL ... plus, it's a metal on fiber end cap seal ... better than metal on metal.

What was so terrible about it? Looks to have the Champ Labs combo valve base plate.

 

[Hatsuwr]

LoL ... plus, it's a metal on fiber end cap seal ... better than metal on metal.

What was so terrible about it? Looks to have the Champ Labs combo valve base plate.

Maybe I shouldn't be so hard on it... but small cellulose filter with no bypass, just seems unnecessarily cheap and unlikely to be worth the few dollars saved.

There is another post of it by someone else here:

Thread 'Mighty Engine Guard M3614 cut open'

Jan 3, 2021

This came of my son's 2016 Ford Fusion with 1.5L Ecoboost. He had his last oil change at an unspecified quick change place. All I know is he did pay to have a synthetic oil. He said the oil life monitor was about 25% and wanted to change it. We put in Valvoline Advanced Syn. 5w20 with a Wix Xp filter.

The anti drainback valve is nitrile. It was very stiff. I doubt it was doing it's job well.

The media is supposed to be a microglass synthetic. Sure felt like paper to me. It was fairly easy to tear by pushing on the pleat, but it was intact until I started messing with it.

The center tube...

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It seems to have lost the metal caps since that post. Also, it claims to actually be a synthetic media. They have claimed that as far back as at least August 2020.

I would have sworn cellulose because of the feel and how it tore, but let me go take some pictures...

Oily filter

Cleaned

Burnt

Ashes

 

[Hootbro]

Given the unknown prior history, I would not blame the filter condition on the filter itself. I have used plenty of E-Core based filters within recommended change intervals and none of them over look that bad.

 

[Hatsuwr]

Given the unknown prior history, I would not blame the filter condition on the filter itself. I have used plenty of E-Core based filters within recommended change intervals and none of them over look that bad.

Yea the used state of it isn't a concern. Who knows how long it was in there.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Maybe I shouldn't be so hard on it... but small cellulose filter with no bypass, just seems unnecessarily cheap and unlikely to be worth the few dollars saved.

What engine is this one? Must be one with the filter bypass in the filter mount or block.

You're only allowed to burn ADBVs ... not media.

 

[Hatsuwr]

What engine is this one? Must be one with the filter bypass in the filter mount or block.

You're only allowed to burn ADBVs ... not media.

2UZ-FE in a 2004 LX 470. From what I can find, the 1UZ-FE doesn't have internal bypass. I don't know about the 2UZ-FE though.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Looks to have the Champ Labs combo valve base plate.

^^^ From post 2. That filter has the combo ADBV/bypass valve base plate.

 

[Hatsuwr]

^^^ From post 2. That filter has the combo ADBV/bypass valve base plate.

Ok I see what you mean now. Interesting design, but with how nitrile ages in this application (tends to harden), I really don't trust this type of bypass to both stay sealed in normal use and open up at the correct pressure. With silicone, this could be good, and it would also prevent the excess contamination when bypassing that happens when the bypass fluid passes over the outside of the media and picks up debris settled in the can.

I withdraw the 'absolutely' part of the terrible though lol.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Yeah, I dont trust the combo valve design either. Give me a good old fashioned metal coil spring.

 

[fantastic]

Thanks for sharing the zoomed in pics. I take it you're not buying another one of these.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Ok I see what you mean now. Interesting design ...

FYI ... search for Patent # US7175761 for details.

Item #32 in figure below is the piece of the rubber combo valve that flexes and opens up when the dP across it is too high, and the oil flows through hole #34 past #32 and into the outlet hole in the base plate - that's the bypass flow path.

 

[Hatsuwr]

Thanks for sharing the zoomed in pics. I take it you're not buying another one of these.

I will not lol.

FYI ... search for Patent # US7175761 for details.

Item #32 in figure below is the piece of the rubber combo valve that flexes and opens up when the dP across it is too high, and the oil flows through hole #34 past #32 and into the outlet hole in the base plate - that's the bypass flow path.

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Yup, 28 is the usual ADBV where the gasket is pushed up under light inlet pressure to allow oil to flow fairly freely into the filter case, but not backwards. 32 is essentially the same thing, but requires a higher pressure to open so that it (ideally) remains closed until the bypass pressure is reached.

 

[OilStainedNapkin]

Looks fine to me. I plan on running the super tech equivalent sometime in the future