micro Green Oil Filters ?

[walk23]

Curious to others opinions on this filter. In Googling oil filters came across this migroGreen site and wanted an opinion. Pricey filter but they promise to cut cost by not having to replace the oil for 30 k miles.

 

[Burt]

Originally Posted By: walk23
Curious to others opinions on this filter. In Googling oil filters came across this migroGreen site and wanted an opinion. Pricey filter but they promise to cut cost by not having to replace the oil for 30 k miles.


Been discussed before. Use the search feature. Snake oil salesmen. Do the math, the cost of the filters largely offsets the oil savings. No proof that using a lower cost, good filter wouldn't provide a similar benefit.

 

[river_rat]

There are other reasons that oil changes in the engine and needs replaced besides particle filtration. A super filter won't save the oil from shearing, oxidizing, becoming acidic, or a host of other things that happens to motor oil in the engine.
IMO, skip the microgreen and change the oil at normal intervals.

 

[WMSmotorhead]

Why not just put your old filters in the press, and then recycle the metal and the oil... best of both worlds. I don't have to feel like a poluter, and can still feel confident that I'm getting rid of the dirt.

 

[kohnen]

Originally Posted By: walk23
Curious to others opinions on this filter. In Googling oil filters came across this migroGreen site and wanted an opinion. Pricey filter but they promise to cut cost by not having to replace the oil for 30 k miles.


I've got an '07 Prius - I use 5-30 M1EP, and a microgreen 301-1.

Change the filter every 10k, the oil every 10-20 k (depending on how gutsy I'm feeling).

I haven't bought into the 30k oil life thing, but I'm sure that the filter removes the particulates better than any other filter.

The 301-1 is WAAAAAYYYYY oversized for the Prius - I'm sure that the filter can easily make 10k, probably 20k.

After 10k on the oil, it looks almost new.

I simply view it as a filter with a built-in bypass for extra cleaning.

Flame away, gentlemen!

 

[tommygunn]

I'd be interested in seeing a Used Oil analysis at your next OCI...from the drain plug obviously.

As it is K&N and Royal Purple, and many other filter manufacturers already already tout "long miles" oil filters, FRAM's XG is guaranteed for 10k (with synthetic oil....), the Bosch "Distance", and ofc, the 2 aforementioned, K&N and Royal Purple, who all of which are manufactured by tried, true, and trusted brands.....if you get my drift.


This "Micro Green" sounds like something to be on the next late night infomercial that my grandma will be asking me about

 

[walk23]

Thanks for the replies. I worked in the refining industry and saw firsthand the difference synthetic oils played in lubricating pumps and compressors. As these have few complete oil change outs but rather filter changes per dp needs I see the benefits.

 

[chrispitude]

If anyone is interested in trying these, there is a 10% discount code good for this week only:

GoGreen2011

I called them up and asked if there was a code I could use for placing my next order. When they gave me the code, I asked if I could share it with friends and they said sure. Naturally I took this as permission to post it on forums.

It would be interesting to get some more folks here to run some UOAs with these.

 

[JOD]

Originally Posted By: chrispitude

It would be interesting to get some more folks here to run some UOAs with these.


If you search the site, you'll see a few UOA's with this filter--I believe a couple have particle counts.

From the limited info you can gain from a UOA, it seems that this filter offers better filtration than a conventional filter. Whether or not it's 'worth it' is an open question though, given their cost.

 

[chrispitude]

The filters used to be $50 for a 2-pack, which was a bit steep. More recently, the price dropped to $35 for a 2-pack. This is only about a $10-12 premium over a basic off-the-shelf filter. Given the falling cost of these filters and the how the rising cost of oil increases the cost savings of extended change intervals, I think it's break-even at the very least - if not in favor of running the MicroGreen filters.

The 10% discount tips the scales even more, for those looking to try them out.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Website link in post #1 no worky ... did they go under?

 

[whitson01]

http://www.microgreenfilter.com/

 

[kohnen]

Originally Posted By: chrispitude
If anyone is interested in trying these, there is a 10% discount code good for this week only:

GoGreen2011...


Thanks gents!

Just bought 2 - was planning on buying a pair of M1-209, but bought a pair of MG 301-1 instead.

 

[walk23]

I have tried these filters and did note the oil looked cleaner for far longer than with the use of any other spin on filter without going to a bypass filter system. I think these filters do have merit though the cost is prohibitive. With the discount code in my application I see it's 26.99 for a two pack and probably on par with or better than a BD+.

 

[OldCowboy]

Looks like a great idea to me. They've built a bypass filter into a normal filter. I'll probably give them a try and compare to a D+ with UOAs/particle counts.

 

[walk23]

Wow that would be great. I am curious to the findings. I did see that the color of the oil looked clearer and cleaner for much longer. I know this isn't scientific so your report will be a benefit.
Thanks

 

[chrispitude]

Originally Posted By: walk23
I have tried these filters and did note the oil looked cleaner for far longer than with the use of any other spin on filter without going to a bypass filter system. I think these filters do have merit though the cost is prohibitive. With the discount code in my application I see it's 26.99 for a two pack and probably on par with or better than a BD+.


I ran these on a 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD, which is a turbodiesel. I noticed that the oil definitely stayed clearer for longer. On that vehicle, that's a sign of good soot removal. That got me sold on these filters. I no longer own a diesel, but I figure the extra filtration on my 2005 Toyota Tundra (4.7L gasser 8cyl) can't hurt.

 

[walk23]

It will be interesting to get a UOA posted using the micro green, but to the naked eye these filters seem to perform as advertised. I've used PC, P1's, BD+, Fram TG, RP,M-1, on and on but on draining the oil after 7500 miles or so there was a definite cleaner looking oil than on any other filter.

 

[kohnen]

Originally Posted By: walk23
It will be interesting to get a UOA posted using the micro green, but to the naked eye these filters seem to perform as advertised. I've used PC, P1's, BD+, Fram TG, RP,M-1, on and on but on draining the oil after 7500 miles or so there was a definite cleaner looking oil than on any other filter.


I've seen UOAs posted on this site with particle counts (I'm just too lazy to find them) and this filter gets really good results.

I'm not sure I'm ready to buy into the "With our filter, you can run your oil 30K miles" idea, but I view them as about the best performing filter you can buy (better than RP or M1) for a little extra money. It gives me the benefit of a bypass filter (whatever that might be) at $6 / 10,000 miles over an RP or M1 filter. And, I don't have to try to mess with buying and installing a "traditional" bypass (Frantz, Amsoil) filter.

 

[FetchFar]

Originally Posted By: kohnen
Originally Posted By: walk23
It will be interesting to get a UOA posted using the micro green, but to the naked eye these filters seem to perform as advertised. I've used PC, P1's, BD+, Fram TG, RP,M-1, on and on but on draining the oil after 7500 miles or so there was a definite cleaner looking oil than on any other filter.


I've seen UOAs posted on this site with particle counts (I'm just too lazy to find them) and this filter gets really good results.

I'm not sure I'm ready to buy into the "With our filter, you can run your oil 30K miles" idea, but I view them as about the best performing filter you can buy (better than RP or M1) for a little extra money. It gives me the benefit of a bypass filter (whatever that might be) at $6 / 10,000 miles over an RP or M1 filter. And, I don't have to try to mess with buying and installing a "traditional" bypass (Frantz, Amsoil) filter.


I concur. What you said. I have not seen any filter that has the cool parallel-internal path this thing has. Gets particle removal down in the 3 micron range, excellent. Less grit (silica, metal) in your oil means less wear, one would think. Oil films range from 0.1 micron to 30 microns, different parts of engine, so grit in that range can harm wear. .. I usually say its worth it to get a cellulose+glass-fiber oil filter to get an ISO 4548-12 efficiency of better than 99% at 20 microns, but its better to scrub out even smaller junk with the microgreen oil filter. Of course, they don't make a microgreen as cartridge filters, only spin-on, so I am out of luck there.