Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4 vs Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus

[Specktre]

I've decided to upsize from 17" to 18" wheels just to get the new Pzero AS Plus 3 UHP tires. They seem to be better than the DWS06+ and PSAS4 if winter traction is not as important to you.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=334

Those look really nice. Good reviews, noise cancelling on some of them, and 560-600 treadwear as well.

Be sure to let us know how they work out.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

UPDATE
I made it less than a month with the Continentals before returning them for the Michelins. Even 45 psi tire pressure was not enough to overcome the shortcoming of a too-soft sidewall.

Though I enjoyed the extra quiet when hitting bumps, railroad tracks, etc., the tradeoff was a serious degradation in handling, to the point that safety was a factor.

Simply put, the Continentals were inferior for two similar reasons:

1) They were too soft, thus handling ability was sacrificed
2) They were unpredictable, thus could not be trusted at speed

The lesson for me is simple: Get the Michelins, but once they get blocky/greasy/slippery, replace them, not matter how much tread is left on them, which is right about 30K miles.

I've been running DWS 06+ at 33-34 psi for a few years now in my BMW. Never a problem.

What vehicle and tyre size?

 

[KevinMalone]

Those look really nice. Good reviews, noise cancelling on some of them, and 560-600 treadwear as well.

Be sure to let us know how they work out.

I have the previous Pzero AS Plus right now and absolutely love how sporty they feel while retaining a refined and quiet ride. The new AS Plus 3 seem to improve on everything

 

[OVERKILL]

First solid long drive impressions, as three of us: Myself, my wife and my daughter, went up to the Toronto Zoo for our anniversary. We took the 401 there, so lots of stop and go, with periods of sustained 125km/h (~78mph) and due to how awful the 401 was on the way there, took the 407 (toll) back.

Firstly, you can tell the sidewalls are much softer than the run flats on turn-in, but bite is excellent, had no problem pushing it hard on on-ramps, stuck like glue. It definitely feels less "sporty" due to this, but that's not a complaint, as it was VERY firm before.

Secondly, they are incredibly quiet, which many people mentioned in this thread. That was a huge change, and a welcome one.

Thirdly, they don't tramline like the run flats did, which I assume is because of how much softer they are. Makes driving that much more relaxed, which is also welcome on a longer drive.

Looks like the tech and the Hunter machine got the tires well balanced, as there were no vibrations or anything, regardless of speed.

So, impressions so far: Positive!

Almost a year later and they are back on the vehicle.

I did try to push them a bit harder near the end of the year on a very windy road I'm familiar with, which underscored their limit being lower than the P Zeros, which we all knew. They were very predictable up and to the limit, which was confidence inspiring.

I'm still of the mind that the trade off in ride quality, wear and noise is worth it over the loss of some ability when really pushed. That said, I'll probably give the Michelins a shot next time around to see how they compare on this porker of a vehicle, lol.

Of course my fingers are always crossed that the PS4S makes its way into this size