Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4 vs Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus

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Normally I'd just immediately go with the Michelin, but the Conti's on the truck have been excellent, so I'm considering them for the Jeep as well. The Pirelli run flats are pretty much at the wear bars, so contemplating pulling the trigger on replacements before the winter, but may hold off until the spring.

Size is 295/45ZR20

Conti:
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Michelin:
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Both tires have the same tread depth.

Conti's are UTQG 560 A A, 80,000km tread wear warranty
PSAS's are UTQG 540 AA A, 70,000km tread wear warranty

The Michelin's are made in the USA and weigh 33lbs each
The Conti's are made in Romania and weigh 36lbs each

Somewhat surprised at the weight difference!

Now, the specs on the tires they are replacing:
Pirelli P Zero Run Flat
UTQG 220 AA A (they lasted about 20,000km)
Weight: 43lbs each


Price is not a huge factor, they are within $180 of each other for a set of 4 at my dealership, so it's not a considerable gap like it was with the truck.

Thoughts?
 
I have run Conti on stuff , but imo if a PSAS is available for that’s the end of the discussion.

Bar none best all around tire ever for me. Though we don’t get that much snow.
 
I have Ron contusion on stuff , but imo if a PSAS is available for that’s the end of the discussion.

Bar none best all around tire ever for me. Though we don’t get that much snow.
I have dedicated Michelin X-Ice Snow SUV tires on it for the rest of the year, these will be my spring/summer/fall tires.
 
2 top picks. I put a set of Contis on my friends '19 CR-V EX-L and it transformed the vehicle. I was blown away.
The Pilot Sport A/S will likely go on our GS350 F Sport when the Pilot Sports wear out. I put them on our high mileage '06 TSX; love 'em.
 
Why would you replace summer tires with any all-season?
In one word - Canada.

It’s hard to predict when that first temperature drop will occur, or that first snowfall will occur.

I’ve been caught on high-performance summer tires when the forecast changed from 40 and sunny to 32 and freezing rain. It was dangerous, the car was frankly uncontrollable, and I grew up in that sort of weather. It wasn’t a driver problem, it was a tire problem.

I replaced those high-performance tires with a set of Michelin AS 4.
 
In one word - Canada.

It’s hard to predict when that first temperature drop will occur, or that first snowfall will occur.

I’ve been caught on high-performance summer tires when the forecast change from 40 and sunny to 32 and freezing rain. It was dangerous, the car was frankly uncontrollable, and I grew up in that sort of weather. It wasn’t a driver problem, it was a tire problem.

I replaced those high-performance tires with a set of Michelin AS 4.
Yup, there are also very few options in this size, and only a single offering each from Michelin and Continental, which are the ones presented in this thread. I'm also not willing to pay $4,000+ for tires that last 20,000km and don't ride well. If they had the PS4S in this size, that would be a no brainer (loved the PSS on my M5), but they don't.
 
I have the AS4 on both Mercedes and on my R Volvo that’s kept in Colorado. The R has its own winter tires on dedicated wheels, but Colorado weather is unpredictable.
 
I have DWS 06+. Based on the performance of Michelin Pilot AS 3+ on Tiguan, I would go with Michelin compared to DWS. It is better rounded and while Conti does not fail in any discipline, on the contrary, has a ridiculous wet grip, two things bother me:
1. I can always feel tires on the steering wheel. They never balance as well as Michelin.
2. Soft sidewalls when doing some sharp cornering.
 
I can attest to this. Sometimes this issue doesn't surface until the tires get older, but this is very much an issue with aftermarket Continental tires.
I never had that with Continental VikingContact 7. But DWS needed multiple trips to balance and still can feel at certain speeds.
 
I replaced a set of summer Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position S-04 with a set of Continental Extreme Contact DWS06, because I needed an all season tire, since I wanted my SL550 to be a daily driver, here in Utah.

I was totally expecting the a/s DWS06 to be a noticeable compromise from the summer rated Pole Position tires, but I was actually very impressed with the DWS06 tires. I have no experience with the Michelin A/S 4, so I can't give a comparison. But I would have no problem putting a set of the Extreme Contact DWS06 on a car.
 
I am interested in this same question. I have always been a Michelin guy but kept hearing good things about Continental. Plus they are oem's on many Euro cars. I appreciate all these comments.
As a side note, I bought a Primacy MXM4 to replace a worn tire. (they are discontinued) What sidewall there is, is the stiffest sidewall I've ever seen. You can't move it at all with your hands.
 
Why would you replace summer tires with any all-season?
Because of location. You can run all-seasons much longer into the shoulder seasons vs Summers.
Even in Ohio we get below freezing in May and october.
With all seasons I run my winters mid december to end of march usually.
with summers I'd have to run them mid october until may.

I have been fishing near Overkill's location and had frost on the dock in September.

The DWS are known for rolling over more and with Overkill's driving.... go Michelin not like they will ride worse than the Runflats IMO..
they are also more performance than the dws06+
 
Normally I'd just immediately go with the Michelin, but the Conti's on the truck have been excellent, so I'm considering them for the Jeep as well. The Pirelli run flats are pretty much at the wear bars, so contemplating pulling the trigger on replacements before the winter, but may hold off until the spring.

Size is 295/45ZR20

Conti:
View attachment 234986

Michelin:
View attachment 234987

Both tires have the same tread depth.

Conti's are UTQG 560 A A, 80,000km tread wear warranty
PSAS's are UTQG 540 AA A, 70,000km tread wear warranty

The Michelin's are made in the USA and weigh 33lbs each
The Conti's are made in Romania and weigh 36lbs each

Somewhat surprised at the weight difference!

Now, the specs on the tires they are replacing:
Pirelli P Zero Run Flat
UTQG 220 AA A (they lasted about 20,000km)
Weight: 43lbs each


Price is not a huge factor, they are within $180 of each other for a set of 4 at my dealership, so it's not a considerable gap like it was with the truck.

Thoughts?
Although @edyvw and I drive different cars we both have experience with the same tires (AS3+ and DWS 06+) and I'm going to echo his opinion.

However I actually prefer the slightly softer sidewall of the DWS 6+ because I'm never driving alone and my passenger is always reminding me not to make her car sick. LOL.

The DWS 6+ does inspire confidence in the wet and we get a lot of rain in the humid SE US.
 
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